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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Mounting a compass???
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:57:35 EST
   A friend has asked me about mounting a compass to his boats deck by simply 
gluing the base in place with epoxy. For some reason he has an aversion to 
drilling holes in his deck. He doesn't really do any hair boating which might 
stress the deck, so I don't see any reason why he can't just glue the base in 
place. Am I wrong?

Thanks for the second opinions,

Scott
So.Cal.
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mounting a compass???
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:36:38 -0800
KiAyker_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
>   A friend has asked me about mounting a compass to his boats deck by simply
> gluing the base in place with epoxy. For some reason he has an aversion to
>drilling holes in his deck. He doesn't really do any hair boating which might
>stress the deck, so I don't see any reason why he can't just glue the base in
> place. Am I wrong?

Actually, the thick double-sticky tape is plenty good enough.  Epoxy is not as
good as 3M 5200 or a polyurethane adhesive for strength and durability (epoxy
becomes brittle), but both the 5200 or the other may be "too good," inasmuch as
they are very tough to remove when he decides to take the compass off.

Drilling holes is not so bad as it sounds.  You can always plug the holes later
with cosmetic plastic buttons if you decide to remove the compass. 

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Mounting a compass???
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:22:00 -0600
>>
   A friend has asked me about mounting a compass to his boats deck by
simply 
gluing the base in place with epoxy. For some reason he has an aversion to 
drilling holes in his deck. He doesn't really do any hair boating which
might 
stress the deck, so I don't see any reason why he can't just glue the base
in 
place. Am I wrong?

Thanks for the second opinions,

Scott
So.Cal.
>>

For a large area (about 8 square inches), I have found that silicone
adhesive holds well, and it has the further advantage that it can be
removed, if necessary.

Chuck Holst
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mounting a compass???
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:40:05 -0800
Chuck Holst wrote:

> For a large area (about 8 square inches), I have found that silicone
> adhesive holds well, and it has the further advantage that it can be
> removed, if necessary.

Chuck is correct, in that the silicone can be scraped away.  However, I believe
the silicone adhesive leaves some silicone in the surface of the gelcoat
underneath.  If you ever need to refinish that part of the boat, you will have
to aggressively remove a layer of gelcoat to avoid problems when you reapply
gelcoat later.   YMMV.

Double sticky tape leaves no residue, IIRC, and can be cleaned off with lacquer
thinner with almost no effect on the gel coat.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
chemist
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From: Arthur Hebert <seacajun_at_gs.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mounting a compass???
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:20:15 -0600
Dave Wrote;
>Chuck is correct, in that the silicone can be scraped away.  However, I
believe
>the silicone adhesive leaves some silicone in the surface of the gelcoat
>underneath.  If you ever need to refinish that part of the boat, you will
have
>to aggressively remove a layer of gelcoat to avoid problems when you
reapply
>gelcoat later.   YMMV.
>
>Double sticky tape leaves no residue, IIRC, and can be cleaned off with
lacquer
>thinner with almost no effect on the gel coat.
>


I try to stay away from silicone for almost all applications, for the reason
Dave states above.  From kayak rigging to residential and commercial
construction, with all the excellent adhesives and sealants on the market we
rarely use silicone( with the exception of some glazing task).
Personally I can not see "gluing" my compass on the deck.  A mechanical
connection is far superior than "gluing".
The adhesive will not hold forever, when will it loose it adhesion?  Maybe
while the kayak is on top the vehicle on the hwy or during a multi day trip,
possibly on a crossing?
I would have to get over drilling a hole in my deck, and go for a nut and
bolt connection.
Just my 1.5 cents,
Arthur

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