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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:45:19 EST
In a message dated 1/5/00 3:16:59 AM, wamckenz_at_gte.net writes:

<< Chuck Holst suggestion of a Krill light however, is MUCH more appropriate

for my night paddles.  I just ordered one from the web site below.


    http://www.extremeglow.com/ >>

Nice find Chuck.  Should be just the thing for night paddling and fixing the 
odd flat tire and reading in the tent and just playing catch and hanging from 
the bow and stern toggles. . . . . .    I assume it's too green in color to 
replace the white light required by the USCG.

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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:45:28 EST
In a message dated 1/1/00 2:29:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, wamckenz_at_gte.net 
writes:

> I was also reminded of the rule of checking expiration dates on my last few
>  night paddles when I decided to demonstrate the visibility of the 6 inch
>  chemical light sticks I carry in my emergency signaling kit.
>snip>
>  I have now prominently marked the expiration date on my replacements. 

How did you determine an expiration date?  I can't find one on the Cyalumes I 
have.  There is a serial number or date code on them, but no clue how to 
interpret it.

I assume you *are* marking the dates on the foil wrap.  Removing the sticks 
from the foil will guarantee that the light fails before its time. 

Happy New Thousand
Harold
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From: McKenzie <wamckenz_at_gte.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:01:26 -0800
I did not determine the expiration date but instead marked the "purchase"
date in permanent marker.  If the foil stays intact, I will assume they will
last for 2 or 3 years.  You are right that they must stay in the wrapper.

The light sticks have just been added to our clubs yearly signal devices
demonstration at our "Sea Kayak Introduction" weekend course.  (This will
allow rotation for new ones into the instructors kits.)

Chuck Holst suggestion of a Krill light however, is MUCH more appropriate
for my night paddles.  I just ordered one from the web site below.

    http://www.extremeglow.com/

Thanks Chuck for the suggestion.

>
> How did you determine an expiration date?  I can't find one on the
Cyalumes I
> have.  There is a serial number or date code on them, but no clue how to
> interpret it.
>
> I assume you *are* marking the dates on the foil wrap.  Removing the
sticks
> from the foil will guarantee that the light fails before its time.
>
> Happy New Thousand
> Harold



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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:19:05 -0600
>>
I was also reminded of the rule of checking expiration dates on my last few
night paddles when I decided to demonstrate the visibility of the 6 inch
chemical light sticks I carry in my emergency signaling kit.  Two tries and
two failures.  Very embarrassing.

The next night paddle I tried and failed 5 more light sticks I had in my
miscellaneous gear.  They were all over 5 years old.  Lesson re-learned.
>>

See http://www.equipped.com/krill.htm for a more reliable alternative.

Chuck Holst
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From: Shawn W. Baker <baker_at_montana.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:01:47 -0700
Hmm...I have 3 or 4 that probably expired in '83 or '84....I oughta
check them out!

Shawn

Ed B wrote:
>Just activated a Cyalume that expired 5/90.
>Worked fine.
>Guess they just don't make things like they used to :-)
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:05:43 -0600
>>
In a message dated 1/5/00 3:16:59 AM, wamckenz_at_gte.net writes:

<< Chuck Holst suggestion of a Krill light however, is MUCH more appropriate

for my night paddles.  I just ordered one from the web site below.


    http://www.extremeglow.com/ >>

Nice find Chuck.  Should be just the thing for night paddling and fixing the

odd flat tire and reading in the tent and just playing catch and hanging
from 
the bow and stern toggles. . . . . .    I assume it's too green in color to 
replace the white light required by the USCG.
>>

Actually, it was Dana Dickson who found it and showed it to me. I have been
thinking about ordering a couple, but haven't gotten around to it yet. By
the way, other colors, including white, are available, but are not as bright
as the green one.

Chuck Holst
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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:29:15 EST
In a message dated 1/4/00 6:58:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, wamckenz_at_gte.net 
writes:

> I did not determine the expiration date but instead marked the "purchase"
>  date in permanent marker.  If the foil stays intact, I will assume they 
will
>  last for 2 or 3 years.  You are right that they must stay in the wrapper.
>  

Actually, after putting my "helper" glasses on and getting in better light, I 
found that the Cyalume Safety-Lights *do* have what appears to be an 
expiration date incorporated in the serial numbered I mentioned previously.  
The last digits on the one I am now looking at are:  / 5 EX 8/02.  I assume 
this means an August 2002 expiration, or about 3 years.

The http://www.omniglow.com/ FAQ states that you can expect a shelf life of 1 
to 4 years, depending on the product.  Unfortunately, they don't list the 
shelf life for their various products.  And Yes, you must keep them in the 
undamaged wrapping to assure that they will work.  Interestingly, they state 
that the lightsticks are affected by moisture, not light.

Harold
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Cyalume Lightsticks also expire
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:21:13 -0500
I just ordered a white one..



    http://www.extremeglow.com/ >>

Nice find Chuck.  Should be just the thing for night paddling and fixing the

odd flat tire and reading in the tent and just playing catch and hanging
from 
the bow and stern toggles. . . . . .    I assume it's too green in color to 
replace the white light required by the USCG.
>>

Actually, it was Dana Dickson who found it and showed it to me. I have been
thinking about ordering a couple, but haven't gotten around to it yet. By
the way, other colors, including white, are available, but are not as bright
as the green one.

Chuck Holst
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