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From: <tfj_at_interaccess.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Camcleats etc.
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:06:43 -0600
This is a mechanical substitute for a knot called a tent hitch.  For the
latter,
consult the Boy Scout handbook or any number of web sites.  Yrs truly has
found
that kayaking necessity has mothered a great deal of inventiveness in
relearning
knots.

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camcleats etc.
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:56:06 -0800
tfj_at_interaccess.com wrote:
> 
> This is a mechanical substitute for a knot called a tent hitch.  For the
> latter,
> consult the Boy Scout handbook or any number of web sites.  Yrs truly has
> found
> that kayaking necessity has mothered a great deal of inventiveness in
> relearning
> knots.

I am glad this was brought up.  I have been using what I guess is that
knot for years.  I know it is what Feathercraft, for example, has in its
deck line kit for the bow docking line and I think for its rudder
lifter.  I use it for my docking line(s) and the knots always move
freely to shorten or lengthen the line regardless of exposure to
saltwater and crude.

There is a reason why one might want to favor knots over such devices
when it comes to folding kayaks: the less bumpy and possibly sharp
devices on the deck are, the safer it is for rolling up or folding the
hull for storage in the boat's carrying bag(s).  It is a small
consideration and the decks are super tough; but why take a chance that
something might be abraiding or possibly start poking holes in the deck.

My problem is that I am a knot klutz.  I can't remember how any of them
go (aside from the one on my shoe laces) and have to experiement each
time to get it right.

ralph diaz 
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From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camcleats etc.
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:47:08 -0600
> This is a mechanical substitute for a knot called a tent hitch.  For the
> latter,
> consult the Boy Scout handbook or any number of web sites.  Yrs truly has
> found
> that kayaking necessity has mothered a great deal of inventiveness in
> relearning
> knots.
> 

If this is the same hitch I'm thinking of, I learned it as a tautline
hitch.

for a neat knot site, check out 
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm

Erik Sprenne

  
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From: Larry Koenig <paddlin_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camcleats etc.
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:51:37 -0600
----- Original Message ----- 


From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>


> 


> If this is the same hitch I'm thinking of, I learned it as a tautline


> hitch.





Tautline hitch was how I learned it too and I've since been taught a slight
variation that I think is called the midshipman's hitch which does not slide
as well but holds like crazy glue.  It is the knot I use on bow and stern
lines when cartopping, on tent lines and anytime I want to tie the end of a
rope around an object and back onto itself.  It involves slipping the second
loop back   over the first and appears a bit awkward but works great. 


Larry Koenig


Baton Rouge,LA








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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Camcleats etc.
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:24:59
>From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
> If this is the same hitch I'm thinking of, I learned it as a tautline
> hitch.

You might be a kayaker if . . .

. . . you've ever tied up your mate using a trucker's or tautline hitch. ;)

http://www2.dmci.net/users/wesboyd/mightbe.htm

-- Wes

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