Re: [Paddlewise] How many rolls?

From: AlderCreek <acks_at_teleport.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:07:56 -0800
Most everything we do in a kayak is based on: 

1. Speed, movement, motion, momentum <slow to fast, forward, reverse or sideways>

2. Angle, course, heading, point A to point B <360º horizontal plane>

3. Tilt, edge, lean, support <360º vertical plane>

Rolling is a function of #3.  It is controlling the tilt of your vessel.  The more talented and practiced you are at rolling the more tricks you can pull outta your hat.  The better you will *understand* balance, support, your body and boat.

IMHO try and develop more than just a layed back roll.  Just add more hip snap and you will find less need to *lay back*. Also definitely work on BOTH sides right from the getgo.  

Sidesurf right = Roll right. Sidesurf left = Roll left. PERIOD.  You probably <hopefully> WANT this skill.  The sooner you develop a good side/ bad side habit the harder it is to break.  Right ?, Left ? you need equal support.  Especially with a Greenland stick. <my paddle of choice>

Steve Scherrer <16 year roller>
Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe
250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr
Portland, OR  97217

Phone: 503.285.0464
Fax: 503.285.0106
Web site: http://www.aldercreek.com
Email: acks_at_teleport.com


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MJAkayaker_at_aol.com>
To: <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:55 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] How many rolls?


> In reading about rolling, watching some demonstrations, and actually taking 
> lessons I have come across a variety of rolls.  I am not going to devote all 
> of my paddling time to learning 20+ rolls, but I do want to try to pick a 
> couple to work on.  Since I use a Greenland paddle, I have started with what 
> Dowd's book calls a standard Greenland roll (extended paddle, paddle 
> providing lift during the sweep to a perpendicular position, then hip action, 
> then a layback with some addtional downward pressure on the blade in the 
> water).  The only other roll that seems to be really useful is a hand roll 
> (this is actually more of a question than statement).  Some of the questions 
> I have are:
> 
> 1. What are the benefits of having both an onside and offside roll?  
> 
> Is it worth the effort?
> 
> 2. Is a hand roll really useable in the kind of conditions in which you would 
> likely get turned over?   
> 
> Would it take an inordiante amount of practice to develop the hand roll to 
> this point?
> 
> 3. Are there condtions where the so called standard Greenland roll will not 
> work well?
> 
> What roll would work better in these condtions?
> 
> 4. Is there another roll that I should be working on and why? 
> 
> Your opinions and experiences would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> P.S.  I realize that I am not likely to go directly from the extended paddle 
> roll to a hand roll.  I imagine I would have to work through a standard screw 
> roll, and then to a half paddle roll in order to improve my hip action to the 
> point that I could even attempt the hand roll. 
> 
> Mark J. Arnold
> MJAkayaker_at_aol.com
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