Dave, I meant no offense and certainly did not mean to suggest that the safety tips should be axed. My point is that we collectively seem to obsess on the obvious hazards of our chosen sport for the sake of non paddlers. How may times does an intelligent person like yourself need to be reminded that hypothermia can kill? Or that wind and waves can blow you off course? Or that the lack of a roll in rough conditions means that you'll probably end up swimming? My tirade was not intended to keep you from valuable information but rather to screen out the ceaseless rehashing of the obvious and to give a nod to the elite paddlers to continue to educate us with their tales of life close to the edge. I am a new paddler myself, just starting my third year and rest assured I had very little knowledge or skill when I started. But being the reckless person that I am, I took a lesson, of all things, to teach me the basics. Then I joined a club and subscribed to various news groups and mailing lists and I paddled and paddled and paddled. Mostly alone because it was alone or not at all. I knew I was taking chances paddling solo, so I studied the sh*t out of every spec of safety info I could find and I learned to roll like a pro. And now, two years later, I'm still no expert but I am a competent paddler who has yet to find his limits, and who because of postings by and discussions with elite paddlers, has *safely* reached my third season with a head absolutely full of well intentioned safety advice. At my level I need to experience vicariously through the elite paddlers just where the line is. But these people are being censored because a non paddler might misinterpret the information and charge off to cross the North Sea. I say let him go, it's a free ocean. Please don't deny me the sources of information that I seek. I too welcome safety info but we seem to have lost our bearing. I don't need another source of safety info, thanks very much, I need information on tide races and wind effects and rolling tips in rough conditions, etc., etc. Maybe your newness keeps you hungry for the basic safety information, for me the hunger has been satiated, now I'm being force fed and I don't like it. I wish you all the luck and good fortune the world has to offer. Enjoy the journey, your kayak is the perfect vessel for what ever destination you have. Jed In a message dated 2/24/00 5:40:56 AM, davea_at_pop.nwlink.com writes: << being new to the sport of sea kayaking my self i appreciate the safety tips in this list. im not a drone with a death wish. that is why i like the saftey tips. not every one subscribed to this list is a vetran paddler. i guess from the first time you got in a boat you were an expert and nobody ever had to give you any saftey tips. everytime i get a saftey tip whether from this list or from any other source i listen to it and do what i need to do to integrate that saftey tip into my kayaking. and thanx to all of you have given out saftey tips. it really helps this newbie. dave >> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Feb 23 2000 - 23:04:00 PST
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