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From: John Waddington <waddinj_at_recorder.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter paddling and ice
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:55:02 -0500
I want to second Ralph's comments and add an extra.  I often
paddle in the winter.  In front of where I live I have about a 50
metre expanse of ice which I slide across, then, where the current
is always strong, there is a narrow passage of open water out past
an island to the main channel.  Last winter I was out one day
where there was a fairly strong offshore wind.  I didn't worry
about it much since I was sheltered by the trees on the shore. 
Unfortunately the wind shifted while I was out.  A great deal of
the broken ice, which had been pushed to the other side of the
river by the offshore wind, suddenly came back and started to jam
my passage to home.  This was grinding, crushing, loose pans of
ice anywhere from 1 metre to 10 metres in diameter. If I had been
caught in it it could have crushed my kayak easily as the pressure
from wind-pushed and current-pushed ice is tremendous.  I would
not have been able to seal land (what is the opposite of seal
entry?) onto the hard, regular ice if I couldn't have gotten to
it.  Fortunately, I saw what was happening and made a fast paddle
home and just made it before my passage closed in.  If necessary,
I could have landed several hundred metres up river and walked
back, but I'm glad that I didn't have to.

John

ralph diaz wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Just an added caution in paddling in ice...make certain that there are
> no Coast Guard icebreakers around.
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From: Jerry Hawkins <jhawkins_at_cisco.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter paddling and ice
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 15:51:42 -0800
Maybe there is an advantage to living in N. California.  Lake Nacimiento was about 55 degrees last weekend ... There were just 4 kayaks and about 20 motorboats sharing 16 miles of lake.

Here's a question - How much of the east coast is subject to icing of rivers and lakes?  I've seen pictures of the Potomac with sheets of ice ... Do rivers and lakes often freeze further south than the Potomac?

jerry.


At 04:55 PM 02/02/2000 -0500, John Waddington wrote:
>I want to second Ralph's comments and add an extra.  I often
>paddle in the winter.  In front of where I live I have about a 50
>metre expanse of ice which I slide across, then, where the current
>is always strong, there is a narrow passage of open water out past
>an island to the main channel.  Last winter I was out one day
>where there was a fairly strong offshore wind.  I didn't worry
>about it much since I was sheltered by the trees on the shore. 
>Unfortunately the wind shifted while I was out.  A great deal of
>the broken ice, which had been pushed to the other side of the
>river by the offshore wind, suddenly came back and started to jam
>my passage to home.  This was grinding, crushing, loose pans of
>ice anywhere from 1 metre to 10 metres in diameter. If I had been
>caught in it it could have crushed my kayak easily as the pressure
>from wind-pushed and current-pushed ice is tremendous.  I would
>not have been able to seal land (what is the opposite of seal
>entry?) onto the hard, regular ice if I couldn't have gotten to
>it.  Fortunately, I saw what was happening and made a fast paddle
>home and just made it before my passage closed in.  If necessary,
>I could have landed several hundred metres up river and walked
>back, but I'm glad that I didn't have to.
>
>John
>
>ralph diaz wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just an added caution in paddling in ice...make certain that there are
>> no Coast Guard icebreakers around.
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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Winter paddling and ice
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:22:35 -0500
> Here's a question - How much of the east coast is subject to
> icing of rivers and lakes?  I've seen pictures of the Potomac
> with sheets of ice ... Do rivers and lakes often freeze further
> south than the Potomac?

I'll be scouting the Potomac this week or this weekend to see how far south
the river is frozen. Last winter the river stayed clear (except for a little
shore ice) 25 miles south of DC. I've heard stories of it freezing solid
enough to ice skate up to 9 miles south of DC, but I think this is rare. The
majority of the smaller side creeks freeze during the winter I suspect.

Woody


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