>From the information in the original post, I don't think TheWetOne was negligent. One first has to KNOW what is the right behaviour/action. AND then not do or perform that action/duty. Yes, TheWetOne was wrong but he did the wrong thing out of ignorance. The dealer on the other hand is another story. A boat with positive floatation is a good thing. The ListConsensus seems to be that if one has a boat without bulkheads then one needs floation bags. Not so much as to keep a swamped boat floating but to displace water and make it easier to recover from a mishap. Less water in the boat means less water to empty. He did not have float bags on a boat that lacked bulkheads. He apparently did not have a pump or scoop to remove the water. He did not have proper clothing for the conditions. He did not have a change of clothes IF he got wet. He did not understand the limitations of his craft. He did not understand the effects of cold air/water. He did not understand the effects of the wind. .... We will never really know what went on between TheWetOne and TheStore. But TheStore SHOULD have informed him of all of the above. TheStore would have made money selling TheWetOne the equipment. TheStore is the first and often ONLY link between a customer and the paddle sports. Safety really HAS to start with TheStore. Are they totally responsible for a person. No. But most people getting into paddling just are not going to know all they need to know. The conversation between Debbie and TheDealer was disturbing to me. TheDealer seems to have his head in the sand. How hard is it for TheDealer and better yet the industry to create a list of links and books on paddling safety? How hard is it to pass out information listing warnings about cold water, wind, tide, etc? Not. TheDealer is just told that one of HIS customers almost died and when offered FREE documentation to help prevent another accident what is HIS response? No. Not a good answer. When I bought my kayak 3 years ago I was struck but the lack information from the manufactuer on even HOW to maintain their product. The warning lable is a joke. There was even less information in my canoe I bought eight years ago. I think the Industry, both the manufactuers and the dealers could/should very easily create a common safety guideline, that could not and should not be all incomposing, but it easily could cover the basics and recommend other places to get information/training. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink" The problem is that the industry, at the point of sale, is not even leading the way for people to learn about boating safety. This is not to say that some dealers don't provide this kind of information. I'm sure they do. I know of one in my area. But I don't see the industry doing anything to promote safety at the point of sale OR thereafter. Look at the accident reports that we have. A good number of them were caused by people being ignorant of paddling safety issues. Now, I don't think that a simple guideline is going to prevent all accidents. It won't. People wont read the guidelines. Or they won't follow up and continue their education. Or they will forgot. Fine. BUT, at least TheIndustry gave the customer a helping hand in the right direction. TheIndustry at least took them to the water.... The reality about boating safety, as well as other kinds of physical safety issues, is that it is an ongoing process that can never stop. One of the benefits of this list is that by just simply trying to follow the list, SOME safety tips have to sink into your head by simple osmosis if nothing else. But how do others find the list and other similar sources? By word of mouth. TheIndustry could so easily change that situation. Debbie, don't beat yourself up too much on all this. You did what you thought was right based on the information you had at the time. No one got hurt and since you shared the experience with the list new paddlers/rescuers are more informed. My two cents.... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Mon Mar 06 2000 - 15:46:39 PST
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