At 14:12 03/16/2000 -0600, Steven Jarvis wrote: >As ralph and Ole misunderstood my question, I must have asked it wrong. The >seal I am concerned about is the tunnel around me not the skirt around the >coaming. Though, that seal is also important, of course, as I don't want my >skirt to blow every time I roll. The concern I had was that deep sculling or >rolling in one of the nylon-tunnel skirts would mean a lot of water getting >into the boat between my clothing and the skirt. > >> It sounds like you need one of the combi skirts that has a nylon tunnel >> and a neoprene deck. The neoprene deck will likely fit tight as you >> want to the rim, whereas the nylon tunnel will not be oppressively >> warm. Snap Dragon, among others, makes these. >> > >I looked at Snap Dragon's website today, and they seem to have several >combination models, at least one of which has a neoprene deck, nylon tunnel, >and an adjustable neoprene band at the top of the tunnel to create a snug >fit, but doesn't encase your midsection in neoprene (the "girdle effect," as >it were). > >The 2000 NOC Catalog has a Kokatat GoreTex touring skirt that has a similar >top, though its deck is nylon, not neoprene. That looks interesting, though >a bit pricey (at just under $160). Kokatat doesn't have them on their >website, so I'm assuming they're new for 2000. Anyone seen or tried one of >these? > >Thanks! > >Steve i have one made by prijon, nylon tunnel, with a "suspender" to keep it as high as you want, and shock cord drawstring to keep the top snug. and, it has a mesh deck bag built in for gear [3 1-liter water bottles, sun & bug screen and gloves all fit nice, plus those are great things to have with you if you bail and lose your boat on the river!! it fits most cockpits with a sticky rubber rand. no bungie adjusters or anything, but i've used it on white water boats and sea kayaks, and even one old sea kayak with a super huge cockpit. never blown it, and if you actually seam seal the nylon, very little leakage. i can't do a sculling brace due to my back, but i've never had much water in my boat after a series of assisted rescues [?? the "T" ?? i went over, and maligiaq gave me 1.] his bow 2.] his paddle 3.] the middle of his boat, and once he tried to pull me up [for all that have met him & not me, i was 200+ pounds, to his 130] a funny aside to that below. oin all the skirt has been good. i think it goes for around $175 new. i bought it used, and will buy another when this gets trashed. but i do use it in class III whitewater, and don't take on much water, and my boat is a VERY wet ride in the waves [mfg calls it a sea kayak ;-] when maligiaq and i first worked on rescues together, he wanted to show me how to pull up a paddle to assist. he kept saying to reach across and pull him up. i repetedly asked to make sure he meant across, before he turned himself upside down.... well, the proper thing to do is reach between the boats and pull the person up between the boats... i would have given a dollar to know what went through his mind [besides his life] when he gave the signal for me to start, and i reached all the way across his overturned boat and yanked him up & out of the water from the opposite side he was expecting!! remember i was almost double his weight ;-p i do remember his face had a very startled expression on it!!! it was a wonderful experience, and i would hope everyone on this list gets to really meet him sometime. paddling is not his only gift. mark ps, please note new email address if you've previously saved any of my others 8-) -- #------canoeist[at]dotzen[dot]org-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.jacknjillz.com/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- "Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and grieve at a funeral? It is because we are not the person involved" -- Mark Twain *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Mar 16 2000 - 19:19:11 PST
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