Hello all, Maligiaq wore a pfd in the Traversee race across the St Lawrence as well as a tracking device so he could be located if necessary. Both were race required. Another interesting point about the Greenlanders is they usually wear a tuilik in their home waters and today these shirt-like outfits are made of neoprene. This allows a kayaker to roll in the cold waters, stay dry and also relatively warm. In addition, because they're made of neoprene, the act as a pfd should the need arise (at least for the 15 minutes or so before you die...). Michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Bradley writes about hypothermia: >In addition, because they're made of neoprene, the act >as a pfd should the need arise > (at least for the 15 minutes or so before you die...). > even in nearly frozen water it takes the average skinny paddler at least an hour to die! =:-o) I did a hypothermia seminar a few years back and this whacky professor from Canada, eh? <forget his name, eh?> subjected many subjects <mostly college students, go figure> to different submersion scenerios. Interestingly enough, even in ice cube water it takes a long time <60 minutes or so> to actually die. If you carry *any* body fat at all the time actually grows quite rapidly. Fat is GOOD! and it FLOATS! Steve Scherrer < pass the Haagen Daz> Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe 250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr Portland, OR 97217 Phone: 503.285.0464 Fax: 503.285.0106 Web site: http://www.aldercreek.com Email: acks_at_teleport.com ______________________________________________ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve ... Perhaps I've missed the point. To me the issue with hypothermia is the fact that one cannot function after a short period of time - that's the critical point - not the total amount of time till you expire. sid Michael Bradley writes about hypothermia: >In addition, because they're made of neoprene, the act >as a pfd should the need arise > (at least for the 15 minutes or so before you die...). > even in nearly frozen water it takes the average skinny paddler at least an hour to die! =:-o) I did a hypothermia seminar a few years back and this whacky professor from Canada, eh? <forget his name, eh?> subjected many subjects <mostly college students, go figure> to different submersion scenerios. Interestingly enough, even in ice cube water it takes a long time <60 minutes or so> to actually die. If you carry *any* body fat at all the time actually grows quite rapidly. Fat is GOOD! and it FLOATS! ______________________________________________ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sidney, My point *was* the use of the word DIE. Yep, you are soooo right, it does only take a short period of time till the body can no longer help itself, but for the heart to actually stop is quite a process. Steve Scherrer Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe 250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr Portland, OR 97217 Phone: 503.285.0464 Fax: 503.285.0106 Web site: http://www.aldercreek.com Email: acks_at_teleport.com ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sidney_Stone_at_amsinc.com> To: "AlderCreek" <acks_at_teleport.com> Cc: "Michael Bradley" <Kobra_at_Interlinx.Qc.Ca>; <Paddlewise_at_Lists.Intelenet.Net> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Maligiaq's PFD > > > Steve ... > > Perhaps I've missed the point. To me the issue with hypothermia is the fact > that one cannot function after a short period of time - that's the critical > point - not the total amount of time till you expire. > > sid > > > > > > Michael Bradley writes about hypothermia: > > >In addition, because they're made of neoprene, the act >as a pfd should the > need arise > > (at least for the 15 minutes or so before you die...). > > > > > even in nearly frozen water it takes the average skinny paddler at least an hour > to die! =:-o) I did a hypothermia seminar a few years back and this whacky > professor from Canada, eh? <forget his name, eh?> subjected many subjects > <mostly college students, go figure> to different submersion scenerios. > Interestingly enough, even in ice cube water it takes a long time <60 minutes or > so> to actually die. If you carry *any* body fat at all the time actually grows > quite rapidly. Fat is GOOD! and it FLOATS! > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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