It's actually very easy to cut down a 2 piece. Most manufacturers will sell you a kit for +- $20. cya -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of LedJube_at_aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:34 AM To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Werner Paddles In a message dated 3/9/00 3:13:43 PM, CHUCK_at_multitech.com writes: << Years ago at a symposium a rep from Werner Paddles recommended spraying a little silicone spray in the joint rather than using oil or a spray like WD-40. Like Rob, he pointed out that oil-based sprays can actually attract grit, which over time can abrade and loosen the joint. >> Chuck, sorry to have misspelled your last name in an earlier post. I heard the same advice and have used silicone religiously every time the ferrule starts to get too sticky. I bought a can, used it once to treat all five paddles, then lost the can. Two years later, I'm still too cheap to buy a new can, I know I'll find it someday. The paddles have worked without a hitch for two years with that one application. I spoke with the Werner factory the other day. I have two paddles that I bought early in my education that are too long for me. I tried to sell them but couldn't bear to sell brand new Werner paddles at a loss of $50 per paddle. The factory said they can cut them down for less than $40 per paddle, and incredible deal if you like me bought a great, but too long, paddle from a less than knowledgeable sales person. I knew they made great paddles but I was surprised at how reasonable their service work is priced. A happy Werner paddle owner Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>> Chuck, sorry to have misspelled your last name in an earlier post. >> It's okay. I'm so used to it that I always spell my name out loud for people. The funny thing is that is spelled phonetically. Maybe it's the same mental block that makes news anchors pronounce Chinese names as if they were French (it's "Bei-jing," not "Bei-zhing," and "Hua-guo-feng," not "Wa-guo-feng," with the "b" and "g" an unaspirated "p" and "k"). >> I spoke with the Werner factory the other day. I have two paddles that I bought early in my education that are too long for me. I tried to sell them but couldn't bear to sell brand new Werner paddles at a loss of $50 per paddle. The factory said they can cut them down for less than $40 per paddle, and incredible deal if you like me bought a great, but too long, paddle from a less than knowledgeable sales person. I knew they made great paddles but I was surprised at how reasonable their service work is priced. >> I have a 245-cm Wind Swift I would like to cut down, but the Eddyline factory said they couldn't do it. Maybe I'll try it myself some day. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Bob and All, Werner will not sell ferrule kits. The reason is that many people are not capable or willing to do a good job and the result is paddles that bear the Werner name but don't reflect their standards of quality. I should mention that I am not a Werner employee but that I do know them pretty well and I am working on a new website for them at this moment. You can look forward to a whole new look for Werner on the web in a couple of weeks. Cheers, -- Rob Cookson 3 Hats Design INTERNET PRINT ILLUSTRATION 5201 15 Ave NW Suite 220 Seattle, WA 98107 206.851.8202 direct line 206.784.1641 main office phone 206.784.2231 main office fax mailto:rob_at_3hats.com http://www.3hats.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Bob Denton > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:36 AM > To: 'LedJube_at_aol.com'; 'PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net' > Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] RE: Werner Paddles > > > It's actually very easy to cut down a 2 piece. Most manufacturers > will sell > you a kit for +- $20. > > cya > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of > LedJube_at_aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:34 AM > To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Werner Paddles > > > In a message dated 3/9/00 3:13:43 PM, CHUCK_at_multitech.com writes: > > << Years ago at a symposium a rep from Werner Paddles recommended > spraying a > > little silicone spray in the joint rather than using oil or a spray like > > WD-40. Like Rob, he pointed out that oil-based sprays can actually attract > > grit, which over time can abrade and loosen the joint. >> > > Chuck, sorry to have misspelled your last name in an earlier post. > > I heard the same advice and have used silicone religiously every time > the > ferrule starts to get too sticky. I bought a can, used it once to > treat all > five paddles, then lost the can. Two years later, I'm still too > cheap to buy > > a new can, I know I'll find it someday. The paddles have worked without a > hitch for two years with that one application. > > I spoke with the Werner factory the other day. I have two > paddles that I > > bought early in my education that are too long for me. I tried to > sell them > but couldn't bear to sell brand new Werner paddles at a loss of $50 per > paddle. The factory said they can cut them down for less than $40 per > paddle, > and incredible deal if you like me bought a great, but too long, > paddle from > > a less than knowledgeable sales person. I knew they made great > paddles but > I > was surprised at how reasonable their service work is priced. > > A happy Werner paddle owner > Jed > ****************************************************************** > ********* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the > author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ****************************************************************** > ********* > ****************************************************************** > ********* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the > author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ****************************************************************** > ********* *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ask them to send you a new insert and you're in business. They charged me $12 for one when I cut down a paddle. cu -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Chuck Holst Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:46 PM To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] RE: Werner Paddles >> Chuck, sorry to have misspelled your last name in an earlier post. >> It's okay. I'm so used to it that I always spell my name out loud for people. The funny thing is that is spelled phonetically. Maybe it's the same mental block that makes news anchors pronounce Chinese names as if they were French (it's "Bei-jing," not "Bei-zhing," and "Hua-guo-feng," not "Wa-guo-feng," with the "b" and "g" an unaspirated "p" and "k"). >> I spoke with the Werner factory the other day. I have two paddles that I bought early in my education that are too long for me. I tried to sell them but couldn't bear to sell brand new Werner paddles at a loss of $50 per paddle. The factory said they can cut them down for less than $40 per paddle, and incredible deal if you like me bought a great, but too long, paddle from a less than knowledgeable sales person. I knew they made great paddles but I was surprised at how reasonable their service work is priced. >> I have a 245-cm Wind Swift I would like to cut down, but the Eddyline factory said they couldn't do it. Maybe I'll try it myself some day. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<<It's actually very easy to cut down a 2 piece. Most manufacturers will sell you a kit for +- $20.>> I have a Viking paddle made locally by a fellow who is really a ww paddle maker but wanted to get into touring paddles so he was putting demo paddles into people's hands just to get them seen. When I picked up my paddle from him he had made it feathered. As I usually paddle Greenland the feathered paddle was too much and so I watched as he cut it appart for a take appart and then drill a hole and insert the gizmos that hold the pieces together. It looked easy to glue in the sleeve and insert the clip piece at the right place. I've never tried it but I don't think it would be very hard. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bingo! A 10 minute operation with fast setting epoxy! But if you own a Werner it's wrap it up, take it to UPS, pay $15 or $20 to ship it, wait a week or two ,pay them $40(including shipping?) and hope it arrives undamaged. Seems crazy to me! So far both paddle manufacturers were more then happy to supply me with the sleeve. The Lendal kit came with an extra SS button thingy. I don't mean to come down on Rob but clearly he required the parts and they refused to supply them. I would not have accepted their lame rational, and certainly would not have defended it. cya From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of JSpinner_at_aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:53 PM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] RE: Werner Paddles <<It's actually very easy to cut down a 2 piece. Most manufacturers will sell you a kit for +- $20.>> I have a Viking paddle made locally by a fellow who is really a ww paddle maker but wanted to get into touring paddles so he was putting demo paddles into people's hands just to get them seen. When I picked up my paddle from him he had made it feathered. As I usually paddle Greenland the feathered paddle was too much and so I watched as he cut it appart for a take appart and then drill a hole and insert the gizmos that hold the pieces together. It looked easy to glue in the sleeve and insert the clip piece at the right place. I've never tried it but I don't think it would be very hard. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hey Bob and All, Don't worry Bob, I'm pretty thick skinned and reasonably capable of defending myself, you'll have to work fairly hard to offend me. I don't feel picked on at all. I do want to clarify something though; I have never needed a ferrule kit from Werner, I used to sell their paddles at a shop I worked for. That is how I'm aware of the policy. As for defending it, I don't think I'm defending it, I'm just offering the explanation that was offered to me. As with most manufacturers issues, my suggestion would be to call Werner and get your information straight from the horses mouth. > I don't mean to come down on Rob but clearly he required the > parts and they > refused to supply them. I would not have accepted their lame rational, and > certainly would not have defended it. -- Rob Cookson "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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