Paddlewisers, I've been paddling with a neoprene skirt (the same one I use on my WW boat, actually) all winter, and now that it's starting to warm up some down here, I'd like to get something else for warmer weather. The hitch is that I'd like one that's perhaps a little more comfortable (in fit and temperature) than the neoprene (mine's a Perception/Harmony LC-1), but still has a secure fit so I can practice sculling and rolling without filling my boat full of water. The nylon skirts I've seen in the catalogs don't look like they seal all that securely. My drysuit doesn't have a skirt thingy to block water coming in like some have, so the only thing over the skirt will be my PFD. Any recommendations? Price isn't really any object, as they all seem to be withing $40 or so of each other. Thanks! Steve =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Steven Jarvis sjarvis_at_dicksonstreet.com Fayetteville, Arkansas USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>The nylon skirts I've seen in the catalogs don't look like they seal > all that securely. We often use an old bicycletube to make the sprayskirt fit tightly to the coaming Venlig hilsen Ole Kjeldgaard *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It sounds like you need one of the combi skirts that has a nylon tunnel and a neoprene deck. The neoprene deck will likely fit tight as you want to the rim, whereas the nylon tunnel will not be oppressively warm. Snap Dragon, among others, makes these. An interesting story, A few years back, Nautiraid saw the Snap Dragon type skirt mentioned above. But somewhere between viewing one at a show or somewhere and getting back to the cutting table at the factory, the Nautiraid people got things a bit confused. They wound up producing a spray skirt with the tunnel of neoprene and the deck of nylon, almost the worse of both worlds!! ralph diaz Steven W. Jarvis wrote: > > Paddlewisers, > > I've been paddling with a neoprene skirt (the same one I use on my WW boat, > actually) all winter, and now that it's starting to warm up some down here, > I'd like to get something else for warmer weather. The hitch is that I'd > like one that's perhaps a little more comfortable (in fit and temperature) > than the neoprene (mine's a Perception/Harmony LC-1), but still has a secure > fit so I can practice sculling and rolling without filling my boat full of > water. The nylon skirts I've seen in the catalogs don't look like they seal > all that securely. My drysuit doesn't have a skirt thingy to block water > coming in like some have, so the only thing over the skirt will be my PFD. > > Any recommendations? Price isn't really any object, as they all seem to be > withing $40 or so of each other. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Steven Jarvis > sjarvis_at_dicksonstreet.com > Fayetteville, Arkansas USA > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
As ralph and Ole misunderstood my question, I must have asked it wrong. The seal I am concerned about is the tunnel around me not the skirt around the coaming. Though, that seal is also important, of course, as I don't want my skirt to blow every time I roll. The concern I had was that deep sculling or rolling in one of the nylon-tunnel skirts would mean a lot of water getting into the boat between my clothing and the skirt. > It sounds like you need one of the combi skirts that has a nylon tunnel > and a neoprene deck. The neoprene deck will likely fit tight as you > want to the rim, whereas the nylon tunnel will not be oppressively > warm. Snap Dragon, among others, makes these. > I looked at Snap Dragon's website today, and they seem to have several combination models, at least one of which has a neoprene deck, nylon tunnel, and an adjustable neoprene band at the top of the tunnel to create a snug fit, but doesn't encase your midsection in neoprene (the "girdle effect," as it were). The 2000 NOC Catalog has a Kokatat GoreTex touring skirt that has a similar top, though its deck is nylon, not neoprene. That looks interesting, though a bit pricey (at just under $160). Kokatat doesn't have them on their website, so I'm assuming they're new for 2000. Anyone seen or tried one of these? Thanks! Steve > Steven W. Jarvis wrote: > > > > Paddlewisers, > > > > I've been paddling with a neoprene skirt (the same one I use on my WW boat, > > actually) all winter, and now that it's starting to warm up some down here, > > I'd like to get something else for warmer weather. The hitch is that I'd > > like one that's perhaps a little more comfortable (in fit and temperature) > > than the neoprene (mine's a Perception/Harmony LC-1), but still has a secure > > fit so I can practice sculling and rolling without filling my boat full of > > water. The nylon skirts I've seen in the catalogs don't look like they seal > > all that securely. My drysuit doesn't have a skirt thingy to block water > > coming in like some have, so the only thing over the skirt will be my PFD. > > > > Any recommendations? Price isn't really any object, as they all seem to be > > withing $40 or so of each other. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Steve > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Steven Jarvis > > sjarvis_at_dicksonstreet.com > > Fayetteville, Arkansas USA > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > *************************************************************************** > > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > > *************************************************************************** > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter > PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 > Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com > "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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