Re: [Paddlewise] Guns, where, when?

It's not a bad idea to check with the local laws
regarding carrying a weapon, concealed or not.  Here
in Pennsylvania carrying a concealed, loaded weapon
can land you in the local brigg. Anything from an
accident to illness that requires emergency treatment
could result in discovery of a weapon. My own
experience dates back about 15 years when I was active
in Dog Sledding here in the Pocono Mtns. A tourist
walking her pet dog was surprised to see us with our
dog teams on a woods trail, when we stopped and walked
our teams around her she loudly proclaimed "you better
not try anything, I have a gun!" We went on our way
thinking that this New Yorker was a nut! Later we read
in the newspaper , how several days later, she had
tripped while walking her dogs and her loaded pistol
discharged while still in her purse killing her!! She
was a whole lot safer here than back home in NY City. 
"There is nothing to fear, but fear itself". Take care
and let common sense guide you all. Charlie Goodman   

--- PaddleWise <owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
wrote:
> PaddleWise         Wednesday, April 19 2000        
> Volume 01 : Number 1049
> 
> 
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> Re: [Paddlewise] Perception Dancer/deck blades
> Re: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> [Paddlewise] paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> [Paddlewise] Bears? What'dbout Leopards?
> Re: [Paddlewise] Lovely book!
> [Paddlewise] Tahiti - Easter Island ??
> [Paddlewise] Wilderness:  Isolation or Adventure?
> Re: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> Re: [Paddlewise] Tahiti - Easter Island ??
> Re: [Paddlewise] the "back-channel"
> Re: [Paddlewise] Tokyo trips?
> Re: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> Re: [Paddlewise] the "back-channel" and bears
> Re: [Paddlewise] the "back-channel"
> Re: [Paddlewise] Tahiti - Easter Island ??
> Re: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> RE: [Paddlewise] Wilderness:  Isolation or
> Adventure?
> Re: [Paddlewise] Guns and camping
> Re: [Paddlewise] Guns?  When and Where?
> Re: [Paddlewise] Wilderness:  Isolation or
> Adventure?
> Re: [Paddlewise] Relative Danger--was: Guns?..
> Re: [Paddlewise] Guns?  When and Where?
> 
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> 
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:43:04 -0300
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_L=F3pez_Arbarello?=
> <uktkayak_at_uol.com.ar>
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Perception Dancer/deck
> blades
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
> To: p w <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:33 PM
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Perception Dancer/deck blades
> 
> 
> > Anybody surf this boat? Comments? My Caribou is a
> little
> > unwieldy for surfing all day. Got a line on a good
> [I think]
> > deal ($250 for the whole kit (including Lightning
> graphite
> > shaft paddle)), and I think it'll be gone if I
> wait to try
> > it out. I will just be surfing, not whitewater.
> >
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> The Dancer is an excellent boat for surfing waves.
> It will perform grate
> even in rouge seas with huge waves. But you must
> know that whitewater
> kayaking has evolved too much from the times when
> the Dancer was the King
> (Lets say 10 years ago). Today's surf kayaks and
> whitewater kayaks are far
> shorter and flatter than the Dancer, allowing more
> radical moves while
> surfing, other than sliding forward, like flat
> spins, wave wheels, cart
> wheels etc. Anyway a Dancer will be grate fun, and
> up to me, it is still the
> "King of the Enders" ( An Ender is done when, while
> surfing, you manage to
> dive the front of the kayak, so being pushed
> downwards by the wave until
> getting vertical, when the air in the kayak will
> lift you up, and if you are
> lucky, you´ll find yourself flying on the air well
> above the water. Of
> course you´ll usually fall upside down so don´t try
> it if you don´t have a
> bomb proof roll )
> 
> Have fun and welcome to the Club of the Adrenaline
> Addicts !!!
> 
> UNIÓN DE KAYAKISTAS DE TRAVESÍA
> Fernando López Arbarello
> uktkayak_at_uol.com.ar
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:59:57 -0700
> From: "BaysideBob" <vaughan_at_jps.net>
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> 
> When my pickup had a regular lumber rack on it, I
> had some padded 2X4's for
> the boats and always carried them upside-down.  Now
> I have a shell with an
> over-priced Yakima rack and carry them
> right-side-up.  The former was much
> more secure.
> Bob
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Grant" <paragrant_at_webtv.net>
> To: <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:36 PM
> Subject: [Paddlewise] cartoppping
> 
> 
> > Does anyone out there carry their kayak upside
> down on their vehicle?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:18:34 -0700
> From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net>
> Subject: [Paddlewise] paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> 
> Mark asked honestly:
> 
> <snip>
> > I was wondering how many people like to carry a
> gun on trips in wilderness
> > areas. 
> <snip>
> 
> Mark, here's a couple of "open-channel" comments.
> I've spent 20 years
> paddling remote wilderness, mostly solo, canoe and
> sea kayak. Yes, there
> have been nights when bears were messin' about near
> my tent, such that I
> wish I had a firearm (or a more tasty paddling
> partner). But I've never
> _needed_ one.  I've had them come near me while i
> was in the "back forty"
> taking a crap - too late to crap my pants, was
> already doing that. I just
> kind of said "hi". Now I sing to myself, which would
> keep anything on this
> planet away. I practice scrupulously clean camp
> practices, try to avoid
> camping or tenting on game trails, and religiously
> hang my food when in
> bear country, when they are down out of the
> mountains (off-season trips, no
> problemo). For those who sea kayak along coastal
> routes where bears may
> inhabit that portion of the wilderness, it is good
> to realize most bears
> have their own evening walk-about routes, and a bit
> of careful observation
> should show forth were those routes might be in and
> out of the thick bush.
> On one trip, a buddy of mine ill-advisedly set up
> his tent deep in a bay
> near an obvious game trail. I was cruel, and didn't
> mention anything. That
> night, yeap, cccrashhh into the guy lines and tent
> fly. Lots of yealps and
> screams from the human, and one jackrabbit bear who
> fell over a log running
> away and must have tumbled given the horrendous
> noise we heard and bark
> removal witnessed in the morning. Sometimes I can be
> so cruel, but my buddy
> deserved it (but not the bear).
> 
> I've spent some of my best evenings when kayak
> touring, as the sun went
> down in camp, watching bears meander up and down the
> beach, sharing their
> "space" with me, whilst they turned rocks over
> looking for yummy treats or
> sniffing through flotsam and jetsam, nibbling on
> shreds of kelp. The
> elegance and power of these animals is so much more
> intrinsic when observed
> up close. I've always considered myself a visitor in
> "their" wilderness,
> and I am willing to take a chance without a firearm.
> I do carry two
> canisters of bear spray, and have contemplated using
> my 12-gauge flare
> "handgun". Don't know which device would just piss
> them off more! Once,
> with a very interested bruin, I quickly pulled my
> fleece jacket over my
> head, arms still in the jacket, to create a more
> menacing presence. Showed
> that fellow who was the boss (well, me thinks I
> was). I have not been
> around grizz's while kayaking yet, just
> hiking/logging/hunting. 
> 
> Audrey Sutherland (of Paddling My Own Canoe fame)
> has spent countless hours
> in the remote Alaska wilderness, and swears by the
> "nose 
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