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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:27:42 -0400
So how do steel shipowners prevent rust.  Is there anything special in the
steel used in ship construction to help reduce corrosion?  Or is it just
paint and chip, paint and chip......

Thanks....
Dan McCarty




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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:35:24 -0700
dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> So how do steel shipowners prevent rust.  Is there anything special in the
> steel used in ship construction to help reduce corrosion?  Or is it just
> paint and chip, paint and chip......

Although I have no real need to know how the following works and so I
don't, I have noticed in the marine catalogs some items that are
basically sacrificial metal devices that will corrode faster than vital
parts made of metal.  They draw corrosion induced by electrical charges,
I think.  Perhaps the best thing to avoid corrosion of your knife and
other vital metal items in a kayak is to wear one of these and also use
a small battery that will create whatever polarization (negative or
positive) that will interact with your corrosion system and affect the
sacrificial metal item only.  :-)

ralph diaz
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From: Rob Cookson <rob_cookson_at_mindspring.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:03:13 -0700
Hi All,

Digging back in memory to my boat yard days I believe that the primary
corrosion protection for steel hulls is in fact the paint.  Ralph is correct
in mentioning the sacrificial strips that are welded to the hull, commonly
on the rudder.  These are usually Zinc, though I guess sometimes aluminum is
used.  They are used to prevent electrolysis or galvanic corrosion caused by
the ships electrical system and the way it interacts with dissimilar metals.
Keeping fresh zincs on steel hulls is vital.  If the paint gets damaged and
you get current flowing it really raises hell with the ship.

I don't really remember much about this phenomenon, except that laying on
ones back, on a marine railway, in February, in Maine to weld zincs on a
nasty old seiner is not nearly as much fun as paddling.
Cheers,

Rob Cookson

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> [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of ralph diaz
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> dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote:
> >
> > So how do steel shipowners prevent rust.  Is there anything
> special in the
> > steel used in ship construction to help reduce corrosion?  Or is it just
> > paint and chip, paint and chip......
>
> Although I have no real need to know how the following works and so I
> don't, I have noticed in the marine catalogs some items that are
> basically sacrificial metal devices that will corrode faster than vital
> parts made of metal.  They draw corrosion induced by electrical charges,
> I think.  Perhaps the best thing to avoid corrosion of your knife and
> other vital metal items in a kayak is to wear one of these and also use
> a small battery that will create whatever polarization (negative or
> positive) that will interact with your corrosion system and affect the
> sacrificial metal item only.  :-)
>
> ralph diaz
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From: Mark <canoeist_at_dotzen.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:04:27 -0600 (MDT)
in the navy, we chipped & painted the whole aircraft carrier every couple
years...  paint and chip, paint and chip...  paint and chip, paint and
chip...

fun, fun ;-p

mark

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote:

> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:27:42 -0400
> From: dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com
> To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
> 
> So how do steel shipowners prevent rust.  Is there anything special in the
> steel used in ship construction to help reduce corrosion?  Or is it just
> paint and chip, paint and chip......
> 
> Thanks....
> Dan McCarty
> 
> 
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From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:19:08 -0400
Mark wrote:
> 
> in the navy, we chipped & painted the whole aircraft carrier every couple
> years...  paint and chip, paint and chip...  paint and chip, paint and
> chip...
> 
> fun, fun ;-p

Merchant marine does the same thing. One summer all I did was chip,
paint, and stand wheel watch. Brushes and rollers, no spray.

Steve
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From: <MadPoodle_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:46:46 EDT
Paint n chip, paint n chip. Of couse, use of genuine Canadian Ballast rocks, 
which contain essential minerals needed to stop corrosion, is the ultimate 
solution....


Scott

Not far enough South of Elian.........
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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Corrosion
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:57:27 -0400
|Paint n chip, paint n chip. Of couse, use of genuine Canadian Ballast
rocks,
|which contain essential minerals needed to stop corrosion, is the ultimate
|solution....

Last night on the TV news, errrrrr, NewsInfomercial, they had a women who
uses SPECIAL black rocks that are then heated and used to massage people.
Yes, massage.  With rocks.  You also get to lay on the rocks.  While you
are rubbed with the rocks.  The rocks gave up their energy to the one they
rubbed.   When I first saw this I was SURE the reader  would say they were
the All Purpose Canadian Ballast Rocks but she never mentioned our famous
trade marked rocks from up north.....

I am NOT making this up.  I'm also a bit disappointed that our Rock
Distributor Doctor did not tell us about the healing power of the Ballast
Rocks(tm).  Very disappointed!  Shocked Actually!  8-)

Later...
DanIAMNOTMakngThisUp!


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