Just curious if anyone trolls when they are paddeling and what their setup is? After a season or two of thinking and experimenting, this is what I've come up with. 1. I've found window sash cord to be the best line as it has some stretch in it, and coils nicely on the spray skirt when not deployed. Very supple and doesn't tangle easily. Even with the stretch, I've found that a small length of bungie (3" by 3/16") tied somewhere in the middle of the line takes enough of the shock of a striking fish not to broach me. (You can substitute for this with a low tech slip knot tied somewhere between the cleat and fairlead for shock and strike detection). You may lose fish, but this is a safety consideration for me if something bigger than a barn door hits my lure. These lines are from 30-50 ft. and have 15 lb. monofiliment leaders of 10 ft. or more, with a foot of wire leader ender attached to the mono leader by a swivel. Terminal tackle varies, but is usually the bright, shiny, "candy bar" type of lure with treble hooks. 2. I originally used a fastex buckle system as a quick release (when something hits bigger than you want and starts towing you backwards) but found it didn't release easily under pressure. A cam cleat works better (one of the reasons for using sash cord though it may take some searching to find a cam cleat this small: sash cord is arond 1/8" diamater). 3. The problem with a cam cleat is that a running fish may veer off at an angle, pop the angle of the cam cleat, and your fish and rig are gone. So, I have a fairlead system about 2 ft. back of the cockpit, on the back deck, consisting of a fastex buckle pair to which a sailmakers brass ring has been spliced into with marlin. This fairlead keeps the angle to the cam cleat constant, keeps the line as I'm trolling fairly much on the back deck and not under the stern, and if I do snag onto a tasty prize, once it's played out, I swivel back, grab the line with my right hand, transfer to left, then swivel back and release the buckle. Haul in! This is not perfected yet as the ring tends to droop a bit and when an emergency release of gear is needed, the line goes through with a "ping" as it struggles to exit (I tie an S knot in the boat end of the line to get a grip on it). Something more rigid is certainly called for. But, it works. Sorta. I don't notice any more drag with the sash cord and lure than with a slightly mis-trimmed rudder, and the benefits of having, occasionally, fresh bass on the barbie, just by paddlewing on, outweigh the drag and the snagging of kelp. Any trollers out there?! -Nick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Just curious if anyone trolls when they are paddeling and what their > setup is? I use a hand line made up by a buddy of mine (see http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin/ for description) to fish for stripers off the New England coast. Worked well for rock bass in Baja too! I've caught up to about a 10 pound fish on it and other than the end of fight tugging bringing the fish in is really pretty easy (fish probably pulls the boat to it as much as the other way around!) Don't know what I'd do though for the size fish folks catch in Pacific Northwest. Roger *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have tried the handline thing, but never was comfortable with it. Mounted a cabellas rod holder to the deck behind the cockpit, and have caught a few fish trolling top water lures. I use a 2 pc 6ft rod, medium heavy, and a baitcaster with 12lb test and the drag set pretty light. My Edisto is a bit wider than some of yalls really narrow tippy boats; but I don't think a similar setup would be all that horrible on a 22" boat. Just use light line, and a soft drag on the reel. If you are worried about being cut off by shallow water structure, use a 6ft section of 20lb wire leader. Might scare off a few line shy fish, but you won't loose that $5 top water lure either. Richard Walker Houston, TX http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Another option might be to use something like "Fireline..." a "glass line." The stuff I used was rated at 20lb, but I think size-wise, it was equivalent to 12lb. Using that in the Grand River I had no problem-even when I caught a 31" Northern Pike... I agree, setting the drag light would be a good idea. You think your kayak is wide? I caught the Pike in an Aquaterra Caspia rec kayak...<g> and no, I did not choose to keep the toothy beast-where would I keep him?<G> If I choose to go fishing this season, I will probably get back in the Caspia on freshwater, with a spinning rod I made specifically for it. The rod is a blank for the top 1/2 of a fly rod. The job I did on it is far from "artistic," but it works... Tom... At 09:19 AM 4/24/00 -0500, R. Walker wrote: >I have tried the handline thing, but never was comfortable with it. >Mounted a cabellas rod holder to the deck behind the cockpit, and >have caught a few fish trolling top water lures. I use a 2 pc 6ft rod, >medium heavy, and a baitcaster with 12lb test and the drag set >pretty light. My Edisto is a bit wider than some of yalls really >narrow tippy boats; but I don't think a similar setup would be all >that horrible on a 22" boat. Just use light line, and a soft drag on >the reel. > >If you are worried about being cut off by shallow water structure, >use a 6ft section of 20lb wire leader. Might scare off a few line shy >fish, but you won't loose that $5 top water lure either. > > >Richard Walker >Houston, TX >http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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