Sorry I was so hard on you Doug. It had been a very hard week with my brother on vacation and all and with this being the busiest time of year for us (no employees to pick up the slack either when one is gone). I should have sat on that post and done a lot of editing once my frustration at how an influential poster like yourself could go on to spread hearsay and innuendo about kayaks you never even paddled. I kept nodding off at the keyboard and just wanted to go home, so pretty much the reader got unedited stream of consciousness. Memory fades for how we hear or read something and in what context it was in. Oftentimes even though we know it was suspect when we heard it the memory will forget it was hearsay and be left with something like: Mariner Max "it had too small a cockpit" or "a hard cockpit to get into". I could go on and on with other examples but you get the point. If my guess is correct about the large Canadian Mariner (I) owner, he bugged me for years after selling his Mariner to let him know, if now that they were discontinued and he couldn't buy another one from me, would I let him know if any of them came up for sale used, We tried to oblige. Doug, I bear you no personal animosity for this latest rant and although tempted I don't have time to answer each point so will drop it. I also bear you no animosity for any other incident from the recent or distant past although you always seem worried in the aftermath that I will. You have already read what I have written for Sea Kayaker on the Storm Island Rescue and you have a copy so even if I wanted to (and I don't, nor do I want to put in much more work on it either) I am not going to change it in any significant way. While you may not like all the conclusions I came to, and may actually bear me some animosity for the article that is manifesting itself in your passive/aggressive behavior towards "authorities" including me, I can assure you that if the story ever sees print it will be almost the same as it is right now (subject to corrections you or the other paddlers make to it--if they would read it). As long as we are speculating about each others motives in public let's try this thought on for size. Could it be that you would like it to appear that I wrote or edited my version of the Storm Island Rescue vindictively as the result of your recent posting of hearsay about my kayaks you haven't paddled. Hard to believe that was your plan all along, but I suppose it is possible. Could this have something to do with your wanting to get your version out to the public first (even at the risk of destroying a friendship and your profitable relationship with Sea Kayaker magazine) and maybe even prevent my version from being published at all. My version includes the way the other two paddlers saw the incident as well as how you saw things. I did notice your version (as published on Paddlewise) had changed slightly (from what you originally wrote me) in ways that seemed to reflect and answer/preempt some of the things I had written and sent to you for comment. I don't recall you ever calling me and telling me my last version was incorrect (and corrections is one reason why I had sent it back for all three of you to read and comment on before publication), but then being direct is not how passive/aggression operates is it. I am not saying this speculation is true just that it is one of many possibilities and since you are suggesting I may be being vindictive or, might become so, I have to consider the possibility you may actually be "projecting" your feelings on to me. Changing the subject I'd like to say that my experience dealing with Snapdragon for many many years is the same as Rob's. They really stand behind their products and it is a pleasure dealing with such a company. As a retailer, I hate being stuck in the middle between an unhappy customer and an unresponsive manufacturer. If a company mistreats its customers or makes it too difficult for them to get a redress of their grievances I for one will be looking for a different companies products to replace theirs on our store shelves. Snapdragon has always operated in good faith. Send them the spraydeck if you think it might be defective. Rob is right, a good company wants to see what it has done wrong as soon as possible so they can fix the problem before too many other customers must suffer it and it hurt their reputation more. In my experience its the small companies like Snapdragon where the owner is intimately involved that put out the best products and really care how they are perceived by their customers. These owner/operators essentially have their own name on the product and want it to be a good name. I've seen too many companies become a victim of their own success and expand to the point where they are operated by managers interested only in the bottom line for the quarter and have driven, hounded, and unhappy employees who are waiting for "quitting time and payday" and could care less how good the companies product is. I spend way too much of my time these days on the phone trying to straighten out the latest screw-up from bigger companies. And try to get them to return your phone call after they have already made you wade through voice-mail-hell to leave the message. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue May 16 2000 - 02:51:13 PDT
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