Re: [Paddlewise] adding foam padding

Hi Andy,

I have not tried the 3M product, but my experience with "environmentally
friendly" contact cement has been negative.  There are some water based latex
adhesives that claim to contact cement, but they just don't have the same holding
power.  Many large scale operations (Andersen Windows for example) have gone to
solvent free adhesives that reduce pollution and work quite well, but normally
these are hot glues or other special products that need special handling.

For kayak glues I say look for all those nasty solvents (toluene, xylenes,
tetrahydorfuran etc.).  If it says toxic waste on the can it will stick, if it
doesn't then do a test glue patch first to see if it really works.  California is
so worried about hydrocarbon emissions that they have virually outlawed oil based
paints and solvents.  Of course the reason California is in such an air pollution
fix has nothing to do with a few cans of paint.  Its all those thousands and
thousands of cars and a total lack of mass transit in Southern CA (you can thank
GM and some evil corporate manouvering to replace electric trains and trolleys
with buses etc. etc. years ago)

As and environmental consultant I really can't see the harm in releasing a few
grams of toluene into the atmosphere, from gluing in new kayak thigh pads.
Besides if you can manage to spill a few thousand gallons of the stuff it might
be a work opportunity for my company!

AndyTKnapp_at_cs.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/15/2000 10:50:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
> Dave_Seng_at_health.state.ak.us writes:
>
> >   Check your local paddling shop for a product called HydroGrip - I believe
> >  it's a Perception product,
>
> The last time I talked to Perception, now Harmony Accessories, in April, they
> said they had discontinued Hydrogrip "for environmental reasons" and were
> recommending a 3M spray adhesive which they weren't yet stocking. Apparently
> there was some problems with selling Hydrogrip as configured, in California.
> I have some of the 3M stuff on order for the store I buy for, but don't have
> any experience with it yet.
>
> Anyone know anything about the 3M product?
>
> -Andy Knapp
> Minneapolis
>
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