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From: Phares Heindl <pmheindl_at_afo.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] WaterSpouts
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:41:59 -0400
Has anyone had any experience with encountering water spouts. I almost ran
in to one last week. It was beautiful, perfectly formed funnel of the
Southwest coast of Florida. I was close to shore, so when I saw it, I did an
abrupt about face and sped to shore.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience or advice as to evasive action
to take in the event or a water spout.

PS. I'm new to this list. I used to post to Wavelength years ago.


Phares M. Heindl
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From: Christine Allison <sailnut_at_asan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] WaterSpouts
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:26:47 -0400
I have a degree in metrology.

A water spout is a tornado which forms over or has traveled from land onto
water.  In general, once the convection cell which has spawned the water
spout gets over a largish area of water it will rapidly lose it's energy and
the spout will dissipate.

Like tornadoes water spouts (generally) have smallish diameters and the
chance of being run down by the funnel is not very  great.  I do not know of
any observations respect the volume of water in the spout.  I suspect it's
mostly highly aerated spray.

Since the spout follows a rather non predictable path there is little you
can do to avoid it if you are on open water and cannot get to land.  If you
have self rescuing skills I would be inclined to lash my self to the kayak
and get in the water (if I was in the path).  The chances of electrocution
are small and you and your partially water filled boat stand little risk of
injury from flying debris or being sucked up and deposited god knows where!
In general the entire event should be passed within 20 to 30 (long) minutes.

Remember that spouts are frequently found within the heavy precipitation
associated with a convention cell and cannot be seen.  A few years ago I got
caught (in a sailboat) in such an event.  Although I could hear the roaring
of the spout I never saw it.  I saw the radar plot later and I estimated the
spout was about a 1/4 mile away.

Remember that violent winds always surround the funnel and you will be at
greater risk from these winds then from being run down by the spout.

Richard Smith

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From: Pete Cresswell <">
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] WaterSpouts
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:46:53 -0400
RE/
>Has anyone had any experience with encountering water spouts. I almost ran
>in to one last week. It was beautiful, perfectly formed funnel of the
>Southwest coast of Florida. I was close to shore, so when I saw it, I did an
>abrupt about face and sped to shore.

I was in one once....Down in Duck, North Carolina on the Outer Banks.

Beautiful day, windsurfing on the sound....

Some guy on the shore was honking his horn and flashing his headlights.

Since I was the closest one to him, I figured he was trying to tell me
something.

Started in towards shore.   When I got into earshot, he yelled "Get in here
fast, and take down your sail!".

His eyes were sticking out like golfballs, so I just did it.

When I got everything stowed, I said "OK, now I've done it, howcome?".

Turns out the guy was a meteorologist.   He pointed to a cloud coming across the
cound that looked like the prow of a big ship.   Said "that's called an anvil
cloud and it often preceeds a tornado."...    then he continued by saying that
pretty soon the air temp would drop about fifteen degrees very suddenly and we'd
likely get a waterspout.

Sure 'nuff, temp dropped and here comes the waterspout.

We ran for our cars and started to peel out of the parking area for the road.

Too late!    Everything turned beige from the flying sand and visibility was
zero.   

Car rocked and rolled for awhile and then it was a beautiful day again.

If I were out on the water in a kayak, I think I'd be inclined to swamp the boat
and take to the water...hoping that the wind wouldn't be enough to make the
swamped boat a danger to my melon.

But I paddle a surf ski now....so I think I'd be SOL.
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Pete Cresswell

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