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From: Phares Heindl <pmheindl_at_afo.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:04:18 -0400
Question : I have been paddling a few years mostly in rivers and have you
attempted  the roll. Now I'm getting interested in ocean paddling and think
it may be helpful. Has anyone used the roll to avoid capsize in real life?
How does the practice in a pool or calm lake translate to rough seas and a
capsize situation?

Is it necessary or really worth the trouble?

Phares M. Heindl
Phares M. Heindl P. A.
Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer
Phone: 407-865-5700
Fax:      407-865-5758
Email:   injurylaw_at_afo.net
Web:    www.heindllaw.com



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From: Robert C. Cline <rccline_at_swbell.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:30:26 -0500
> From: Phares Heindl <pmheindl_at_afo.net>
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:04:18 -0400
> To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
> 
> Has anyone used the roll to avoid capsize in real life?

Absolutely.  It's dependent on the sea conditions.  The more challenging the
sea is for you, the more likely you are to need that roll.

> How does the practice in a pool or calm lake translate to rough seas and a
> capsize situation?

Pool practice gives you the skill.  Practice enough to become comfortable
and confident with the roll.  Paddling in rough seas, you must learn to
relax apply the skill.  The key is: relax and stay loose.  If it all seems
to be going to hell, and you stiffen up, the more likely you are to capsize
and the less likely your roll will work.


Robert

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From: Robert C. Cline <rccline_at_swbell.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:07:16 -0500
Actually Phares, you said "roll to avoid capsize."  I think I know what you
meant.  But then, you're a trial lawyer right?  You're messing with
us...right?

I roll in real life when I don't avoid capsize with a brace or "recovery"
stroke.  If I avoid the capsize, I can't roll; well, I could, but I don't,
because I would have to capsize, which as per your question, I'm trying to
avoid, which, as your question implies, I usually do; that is, I usually do
try to avoid capsize, when I do, I don't roll, because I don't have to.

Robert


Phares M. Heindl wrote
 Has anyone used the roll to avoid capsize in real life?
> 
Robert Cline replied:
> Absolutely.  It's dependent on the sea conditions.  The more challenging the
> sea is for you, the more likely you are to need that roll.

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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:01:02 +1000
Phares:
Good to see another lawyer getting away from the courts with a paddle. Do
you have any knowledge of personal injury claims related to kayaking?
As to the roll, I have used it when capsized trying to break out through
surf. I think a roll is essential. A roll is the quickest and best rescue by
far. And it is enjoyable to have this skill. It increases your enjoyment of
paddling knowing you have a reasonable chance of quick self rescue if you
capsize. Your paddling improves if you are not fearful of going over. You
are more likely to brace, sweep, surf etc effectively. It's good to roll a
few times each trip, although the water here is now about 11 degrees
Celsius, (50 F) and it took a bit of will power last weekend to deliberately
roll.
I now have a Windstopper hood with long ear flaps to pull over most of my
head. This seems to work well, but probably soaks up more water, and dries
slower, than a neoprene surfers bonnet. What do people prefer for cold water
head protection?

Regards,
Peter Treby
37* 42' S 148* 08' E


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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Roll
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:01:35 -0400
 >Has anyone used the roll to avoid capsize in real life?

Would love to do that, but I can't get enough lift...
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