I was thinking about a rudder...not in the water but in the air like an airplane rudder. I think it would tend to have the same affect on the boat as it does to an airplane and turn the bow into the wind. Wouldn't this be a good way to keep the bow facing the wind while you pump out after a capsize? It could be a fabric folding fan like device spring loaded to stay closed until you needed it. Or how about take it one step further and use it anytime you needed to turn the bow into the wind? Or take it to the extreme with another deployed on the bow to keep the stern pointed into the wind in following seas. Holy Bat Boat the possibilities are endless. Don't laugh but I actually played around with this using my wet rudder sticking up in the air and a deflated paddle float over it. The wind was light and the paddle float rig was floppy so not much happened. I'm a kayak newbie so I'm not sure if this idea is brilliant, really stupid or has been tried before with tragic results. Are we riding the intersection of two moving fluids using one to steer and ignoring the other? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
David, bob klemick here, I was out in 30 mph wind on Sat and I sure could have used some kind of rudder with the following wind on my return trip. I spent more energy using the paddle as a rudder than I did for paddling. Your air rudder sounds like an idea that might work (this from someone who has no concept of how it might work). Do you have an idea of how it might be fabricated, mounted, and operated? If you want to share it, I'll try it. bob klemick David Seales wrote: > I was thinking about a rudder...not in the water but in the air like an > airplane rudder. I think it would tend to have the same affect on the boat > as it does to an airplane and turn the bow into the wind. Wouldn't this be > a good way to keep the bow facing the wind while you pump out after a > capsize? It could be a fabric folding fan like device spring loaded to stay > closed until you needed it. Or how about take it one step further and use > it anytime you needed to turn the bow into the wind? Or take it to the > extreme with another deployed on the bow to keep the stern pointed into the > wind in following seas. Holy Bat Boat the possibilities are endless. > Don't laugh but I actually played around with this using my wet rudder > sticking up in the air and a deflated paddle float over it. The wind was > light and the paddle float rig was floppy so not much happened. I'm a kayak > newbie so I'm not sure if this idea is brilliant, really stupid or has been > tried before with tragic results. Are we riding the intersection of two > moving fluids using one to steer and ignoring the other? > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
David, Interesting idea, that might have merit. One big problem I see is that one knot of current will overcome 20 knots of wind. At least that is what I was taught in the Navy. Your milage may vary. ;-) Steve Featherkile David Seales wrote: > I was thinking about a rudder...not in the water but in the air like an > airplane rudder. I think it would tend to have the same affect on the boat > as it does to an airplane and turn the bow into the wind. ...........big > snip........... Are we riding the intersection of two > moving fluids using one to steer and ignoring the other? > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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