Re: [Paddlewise] My last post

From: William J. Oetjen <woetjen_at_zoo.uvm.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:00:21 -0400 (EDT)
My summary response to Doug's unwritten "point" is at the end --

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Doug Lloyd wrote:

> I posted:
> <snip>
> ...a recurring adrenaline junkie who busted off his bow's keel strip
> today
> while surfing BC ferry wake into a reef off tiny Newcastle Island while
> paddling with a company of timid environmentalists from the Georgia
> Straight Alliance  - tenth anniversary celebration weekend - who
> headed...
> 
> That should be the "Georgia _Strait_ Alliance", though this brings up an
> amusing moment from the weekend. After the paddle and nature walks, etc,
> of the weekend celebration were over, we all sat around in a
> closing-circle and talked about the significance of the weekend and the
> marine environment we are trying to save (we do weird things like that
> here on Vancouver Island - the circle part, but we didn't hold hands).
> Some gal got up on her hobby horse and went on about an irrelevant
> lesbian gay pride parade happening in a few weeks.  As she does have
> involvement with the GSA, she added "Oh yeah, I'll continue to fight for
> the "Strait" too. She didn't realize what she said at the end juxtaposed
> to her gay-pride speech, where upon we roared with laughter because  it
> sounded like she was also going to advocate for the "straight". Guess
> you had to be there.
> 
> BC'in Ya
> Doug Lloyd (who has nothing against gays)
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		Somehow, Doug, I question the extent of your veracity on	
		your last point.

Why did you derogatorily refer to the woman (I assume she was at least 16
years old) as a "gal"?   And why the bit about the "hobby horse?"


As someone who has been to meetings of minds from various perspectives,
issues, and causes, I have observed that it is perfectly normal, even
beneficial, to connect them.  Because so many social issues share a common
source of oppression with environmental issues, it makes sense to try to
touch and educate as many people as possible.  Not everyone is
totally effective in all of these areas.  You have proven that.
Try to listen more carefully, demonstrate real respect for where people
come from, and perhaps people will show the same for you.

		Bill Oetjen

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