In a message dated 7/24/00 3:05:31 PM, woetjen_at_zoo.uvm.edu writes: <<snip . . . . Why did you derogatorily refer to the woman (I assume she was at least 16 years old) as a "gal"? And why the bit about the "hobby horse?" . . . snip . . . As someone who has been to meetings of minds from various perspectives, issues, and causes, I have observed that it is perfectly normal, even beneficial, to connect them. . . snip . . . Try to listen more carefully, demonstrate real respect for where people come from, and perhaps people will show the same for you. Bill Oetjen >> My dear Mr Oetjen, As someone who has had much too much of my life's energy wasted by people with opinions that they felt should be shared by all beings, I urge you to spare us the sermon and deliver your comments directly to the person that you feel has slighted your cause. This is not the appropriate forum for your previous post. Some of the list member actually subscribe to talk and read about paddling (canoe and kayak) issues. Personal attacks, in the guise of (not so) friendly advise are not going to further your cause, but rather will only serve to diminish the value of your posts. To the rest of paddlewise. I threw out my first 3 drafts of this post and the post I planned to send to Mr Oetjen directly. I threw them out because I felt myself being sucked into a pitiful a valueless exchange. Please stay cognizant of the fact that this is an informal text based medium. All of the nuances of normal person to person discourse are eliminated. It serves no worthwhile purpose to dissect each other's posts. One the other hand, frank open discussion that allows people to speak using their normal day to day language will make us all the richer. Jed "Speed Bump" Luby *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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