BOOjum asks - <If you had a [clean] plastic hypo, why wouldn't [moderate] pressure irrigation be possible? A question on saline solution - By adding salt and thus 'salinating' the water, does it make the water less osmotic? Is the goal to prevent the liquid from rapidly permeating the wound?> There's a whole rat's nest of slightly different things going on which involve terms like "osmolar...osmotic....hyper(or hypo-)tonic.." and so forth. A simplistic way of thinking about it is that there are ions, concentrations of minerals, on each side of a cell's membrane. There are also what's called "ionic pumps" which maintain differing concentrations of these minerals. But if fluid outside a cell (like sterile water) has no minerals and the fluids inside the cell have, and need, significant concentrations of minerals, that mis-match is going to damage the cell. "Free" water will tend to pass into the cell, "trying to equalize the concentration of minerals" on each side of the membrane. The result is that the cell can be damaged, and can even rupture because of the overabundance of water inside it. So BOOjum's first observation that pure water is "very osmotic" in the sense that it readily tends to migrate across a cell membrane, is quite correct. What you're trying to do by using saline rather than water is to use a solution which has something closer to the cell's mineral concentrations. Saline as such isn't perfect, fo course. There are other, fancier, solutions which can be used. But saline works well enough in most situations, and it's just about the only thing you can make up in a field situation. RE: Carrying a syringe - yes, that would work fine. Best would be to carry a sterile plastic syringe of somehwere between 20 and 50 ml size in its original plastic wrapper. I don't think you can boil these things and have them still in usable condition, though I've never tried that. ==>I also don't know of anyone who carries a plastic syringe for that purpose.<== RE: The question of whether an antibiotic cream or ointment is ever useful - Well, they're okay for minor burns. Creams, as opposed to ointments, are good dressings for that. But they need to be removed completely, the wound cleaned thoroughly, and the cream re-applied once or twice a day (depends on the depth of the burn, how much pus there may be, etc etc....) for best results. They also make a nice non-sticky coating after some minor wound repairs; the dressing, if any is used, is easier and less painful to change that way. BTW - everyone has probably already realized that when I described how to make sterile saline in a field situation I meant to start with a liter of *clean water* rather than a liter of "sterile" water, then boiling the resultant saline solution. But if your water has been made potable by adding clorine or bromine in any form, then best boil it for a while to drive off the halogen ions, which form acids and would really smart... :-) Bill Hansen Ithaca NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Mon Aug 14 2000 - 11:56:58 PDT
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