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From: Ulli Hoeger <uhoeger_at_is.dal.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Re How would you deal with the following situation
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:02:35 -0300
Hi,

with two or even more person in the water this is the only possible 
way I can imagine right now to deal with such a situation without 
taking a huge risk for yourself.  If you have no life guard training and 
know the tricks and techniques how to handle panicking swimmers 
it might be also the best way to deal with a single person.
I did a course more than 10 years ago, and at the end I wasn't sure 
if I would be able to handle a desperate victim. A final test with a 
"drowning" waterball player brought us back to reality -most of us 
made it barely back out of the pool-. 
After such a long time without practicing these skills I am pretty 
sure that it would be very hard or even impossible for me to rescue 
somebody with bare hands, and for sure there would be a pretty 
high risk for my own life.  Wearing a pfd, having a kayak, and other 
floating stuff might make it easier, but still a though job.

I hope we will get good and lots of feedback in this topic, since it 
could happen to all of us that we are unexpected confronted with 
drowning people.  Then it might be very helpfull to have at least 
played with such a scenario in theory and have a plan or strategy 
in mind.

Looking forward to learn more

Ulli

BTW:  How many of us have some kind of first aid training? Pulling 
people out of the water might be only the first step.  CPR could be 
the next step.  Do you think you would be able to do it?  I think I 
probably should fresh up on this. My last first aid /CPR class was 
also at least 10 years ago.


Ulli Hoeger
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

uhoeger_at_is.dal.ca
web://is.dal.ca/~uhoeger/
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From: Bob Myers <bob_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re How would you deal with the following situation
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:24:28 -0700
LedJube_at_aol.com wrote:
} Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re  How would you deal with the following situat
> In a message dated 8/18/00 4:43:26 AM, jackie_at_intelenet.net writes:
> 
>     I didn't read the same "holier than thou" attitude that you did in his 
> post.

I did.

> I didn't hear him condem other peoples solutions. 

I did.  This is what he wrote:

David Seales wrote:
>> I can't believe some of the responses to this thread. From people who train 
>> themselves to handle a water emergency, who roll their boats upside down 
>> for fun, who you would assume are at home in the water and prepared for it 
>> by wearing a PFD and proper clothing. 



> Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

Protest too much?  Do you even realize what are you implying by that?

You have no idea what you are talking about.  Your insinuation is not
appreciated.

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