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From: Joe Federici <fedo_at_hudsonet.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] gel coat/ how long is it good?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:54:33 -0400
Tuesday kayaking in RI near Beaver tail I chipped some gel coat on my 
boat (romany 16). I've got  gel coat that was sent to me a few months 
ago from NDK but I wondering if it still good. The container they used 
was plastic and the seal was tight but by the way it smells in the area 
I stored it I'm guessing not air tight. How can I tell if it's still 
good? I'm planing on mixing some up before hand but wondered if anyone 
had more insight. 

JFF 

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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] gel coat/ how long is it good?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:18:17 EDT
In a message dated 8/24/00 2:51:10 PM, fedo_at_hudsonet.com writes:

<< Tuesday kayaking in RI near Beaver tail I chipped some gel coat on my 
boat (romany 16). I've got  gel coat that was sent to me a few months 
ago from NDK but I wondering if it still good. >>

    A gel-coat repair on a British boat??  I never heard of such a thing!  
Are you sure it isn't just a (British) scratch? Gel-coat on British boats is 
normally quite thick. I leave my dings and scratches there for the word to 
see as a tribute to fine British craftsmanship.
    I used to repair every scratch and chip that flew off my previous Kevlar 
boat. Now I just chuckle with every new gouge and scrape, knowing that a 
lesser boat would be sporting holes at those points. 

Jed  ;-)

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From: Sailboat Restorations, Inc. <sailboatrestorations_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] gel coat/ how long is it good?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:09:17 -0400
>     A gel-coat repair on a British boat??  I never heard of such a thing!
> Are you sure it isn't just a (British) scratch?

Uh, yeah.  Who needs gelcoat anyway!  It's just a wimpy little layer of some
panzy-fied coloring agent.  I want my next boat to be built of four inch
thick hand laid woven roving and epoxy.  I want to be able to toss it off
the cliffs at Dover and watch it bounce around on the rocks and not suffer a
scratch!  I want to be able to get up inside it and roll off the Niagara
Falls and laugh at the world and not suffer a bruise!  Light weight?
Pshaw!!!  Who needs it!  Gelcoat schmelcoat!  A beautiful boat is one that
is scratched all to hell.  Shows character.  Aesthetics?  What the hell is
that?  Who needs it?  Long live the British Empire!  May the sun never set
on . . . um. . . . well, um. . . may the sun never set!  So there!

Mark (descended from an ancient clan of foolish Brits...)

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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] gel coat/ how long is it good?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:15:22 -0700
Joe Federici <fedo_at_hudsonet.com> wrote:
>>>Tuesday kayaking in RI near Beaver tail I chipped some gel coat on my
boat (romany 16). I've got  gel coat that was sent to me a few months
ago from NDK but I wondering if it still good. The container they used
was plastic and the seal was tight but by the way it smells in the area
I stored it I'm guessing not air tight. How can I tell if it's still
good? I'm planing on mixing some up before hand but wondered if anyone
had more insight. <<<

Some of the styrene may have evaporated but if you can still stir in some
catalyst the gelcoat should still harden. If it has dried out so much as to
be lumpy when you stir it, it probably won't do a very good job. Often times
for repairs it is handy to have it be a little thicker than normal, so a
little dried out can be a good thing. The styrene in the gelcoat will soften
some plastics (like the container it was shipped in). This might have
contaminated the gelcoat a little bit. You can always do a test and catalyze
a little of the gelcoat and see if it hardens. You could even put it in the
chip, if it doesn't harden right its easy to clean it out and try again.
Gelcoat usually takes about 2 to 3% catalyst for best cure. Over 4% inhibits
the cure so don't use too much. If you add a little liquid wax to the
gelcoat (known as "surface agent") it floats to the surface and prevents air
from inhibiting the cure on the surface layer. Using surface agent (or waxed
paper) makes the patch much easier to file and sand without clogging your
tools with gummy resin on the surface of the patch that has been "air
inhibited".
Good luck.

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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