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From: Wayne DorschuSr <wdorschu_at_hotmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak rolls
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 13:42:53 GMT
I'm new to kayaking and live in Hawaii.  I have two sit-on-top kayaks.  A 
14'9" Scupper Pro for sea touring, and a Cobra Strike for riding waves.  I 
am trying to teach myself how to roll.  Every tape I've viewed and every 
book I've read show kayak rolls done on sit-inside kayaks with a spray 
skirt.  No matter how hard I try I can not seam to roll a sit-on-top.  Are 
kayak rolls possible on sit-on-tops?  If so, which rolls work the best?  
Thanks for your HELP!  WayneD


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From: Greg Stamer <gstamer_at_magicnet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak rolls
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 15:10:44 -0400
At 01:42 PM 8/6/00 GMT, Wayne DorschuSr wrote:
>I'm new to kayaking and live in Hawaii.  I have two sit-on-top kayaks.  A 
>14'9" Scupper Pro for sea touring, and a Cobra Strike for riding waves.  I 
>am trying to teach myself how to roll.  Every tape I've viewed and every 
>book I've read show kayak rolls done on sit-inside kayaks with a spray 
>skirt.  No matter how hard I try I can not seam to roll a sit-on-top.  Are 
>kayak rolls possible on sit-on-tops?  If so, which rolls work the best?  

Wayne,

If you have a strong roll you can roll a sit-on-top equipped with thigh
straps or a seat-belt. I use a slow extended-paddle sweep roll (leaning
aft) for boats like a Scupper Pro or a waveski. You might have a shorter
learning curve if you hire an instructor and learn to roll something
easier, like a whitewater kayak, then transfer your skills to your
sit-on-top. Climbing back aboard a sit-on-top is not always an easy task,
but with a kayak like a Scupper Pro, I would recommend that you hone those
skills first, before spending time on your roll.

Greg Stamer


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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak rolls
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 16:47:45 EDT
Wayne,

   I would just like to basically second everything Greg has said. Your 
average sit-on-top is probably among the more difficult boats to roll. But 
with the right technique and a set of thigh straps, it can be done. Like 
Greg, I will generally resort to and extended paddle roll (Pawlata roll) when 
rolling this type of craft. If you are not using a seat back on your boat 
then you will find laying back on the rear deck at the end of your roll will 
certainly lower your center of gravity and increase your chances of coming 
up. As Greg suggested, I would learn in an easier boat first, then work up to 
the sot.

Scott
So.Cal.

<< I'm new to kayaking and live in Hawaii.  I have two sit-on-top kayaks.  A 
 14'9" Scupper Pro for sea touring, and a Cobra Strike for riding waves.  I 
 am trying to teach myself how to roll.  Every tape I've viewed and every 
 book I've read show kayak rolls done on sit-inside kayaks with a spray 
 skirt.  No matter how hard I try I can not seam to roll a sit-on-top.  Are 
 kayak rolls possible on sit-on-tops?  If so, which rolls work the best?  
 Thanks for your HELP!  WayneD >>
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak rolls
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 19:33:28 -0400
At 04:47 PM 8/6/00 -0400, KiAyker_at_aol.com wrote:
>Wayne,
>
>   I would just like to basically second everything Greg has said. Your 
>average sit-on-top is probably among the more difficult boats to roll. But 
>with the right technique and a set of thigh straps, it can be done.

I would say that is pretty much true because the "average" sit-on-top is
quite wide and stable and designed such that it's easy to climb onto rather
than roll.  However,  I've paddled a friends Prijon Twister which
essentially a whitewater hull very similar to the Prijon Hurricane but with
a closed deck making it a sit-on-top.  With thigh braces it's one of the
easiest boats I've ever rolled..


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