Doug: What about yourself? Your personal standards, limits and competence? All won through ACA or through a number of people, including "self learning" through miles of paddling and challenging oneself in various conditions and situations? As someone on this list reminded me in an earlier post, it's all paper. Politics aside, training is about competence more than anything; and second, being able to work with people. What about Gronseth's Kayak Academy? Gronseth is not associated with either ACA or BCU, but I have found him to be one of the most competent instructors I have come across. What he can do for his students in his 5 day course, I would challenge anyone or any agency to compare with. I was absolutely amazed what he did for me. I say choose the instructor who can take you to a greater level rather than relying on the agency. With training programs such as presented by Sweetwater, the BCU is sure to spread in influence. While not all BCU coaches are worth either the money or the time, and some you will discover you wish you had never heard of... but this is true in any agency, I can speak highly of the BCU courses I had with Sweetwater and at Nigel Dennis' ASSC in Wales. I suggest not wedding oneself to any particular agency but to seek out the best instructors you can find. I'd be delighted to learn from you Doug Lloyd; I've learned a good bit just from your postings here on Paddlewise. Perhaps we could paddle together someday before I get too old and decrepit to do so. Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Doug Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:09 PM To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net; Bill Hansen Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] What about the ACA (was Florida Reunion) Bill Hansen said: <<Mike - Have you attended the Sweetwater Symposium? And if so. would you give me and others a rundown on what it's like? I know that Sweetwater offers BCU trainings, but I also know that they stop at 4 Star, saying that the weather down there isn't severe enough for 5 Star (and that's okay with me!). >> <snip> I heard it was a great training venue, but on a national basis, in term of cohesiveness, how does an all BCU development weekend help Americans when the dominant system will one day be the ACA. Forgive me my ignorance of US paddling politics. I do not know a lot about what goes on down there, and I _do_ know that the BCU stuff is top notch, but where will this fit in with those wanting to move through the instructor levels as the country moves toward a national program? BC'in Ya Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Sep 06 2000 - 23:13:30 PDT
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