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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cowboy Rescues vs. Paddlefloat in surf
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:55:33 EDT
<< Have you also been successful in teaching people to doing a paddlefloat
 rescue in surf?  One BCU coach I know is so adamantly opposed to  the
 paddlefloat, he refused to acknowledge that using a paddlefloat in surf is
 even possible.  Paddlefloat is worthless except in flat water, he reasoned. 
>>

   When I teach the surf zones class I discourage my students from taking 
anything out in the water with them such as paddlefloats, pumps or even 
bailing sponges. The purpose of the class is to work on how to successfully 
negotiate launching and landing through the surf (although a fair amount of 
actual surfing also usually takes place toward the end of the class, which is 
ok by me as it instills reflexive skills, not to mention it's a whole lot of 
fun). If they took such equipment out in the surf with them, the odds are it 
would probably just get lost. I also discourage assisted rescues in the surf 
zone. The instructors will occasionally perform them, because we know what 
we're doing. However, the students are free to attempt solo rescues if they 
are of a mind to.
   So in answer to your question, no, I have not ever attempted to teach the 
paddlefloat rescue in the surf. Frankly, while I think the paddlefloat rescue 
is a fine technique (and I do teach it also), I do not consider the 
paddlefloat rescue to be practical in the surf zone. It just requires too 
much time to deploy, and the paddlefloat itself could prove to be a hazard in 
the waves. While I'm sure it can be done, there are too many other better 
alternatives for surf zone rescue, including simply swimming your boat into 
shore.

Scott
So.Cal.
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From: Jack Fu <jack.fu_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Cowboy Rescues vs. Paddlefloat in surf
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:57:45 -0700
Scott wrote:

> there are too many other better
> alternatives for surf zone rescue, including simply swimming your boat
into >
> shore.

Scott,

What are the other alternatives? I'd like to learn them.

Jack Fu
47°38'N 122°08'W


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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cowboy Rescues vs. Paddlefloat in surf
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:39:32 EDT
   Well OK,  let’s review the various rescues applicable to the surf zone.
 
1. The Eskimo roll including the re-enter and roll.
2. Simply climb back into the boat. This can be done with the cowboy rescue, 
or any of the other variants (such as climbing directly into the cockpit) 
that have been practiced and learned. 
3. Swimming the boat back to shore.
4. Swimming the boat out beyond the surf zone and then performing a 
paddlefloat or assisted rescue.
5. An assisted rescue. Although I do not recommend this unless the rescuer 
has some experience performing assisted rescues in the surf. Otherwise you 
could very easily end up with two people in the water, or worst, one or both 
people injured and in the water.

   Can anybody think of any I missed? 

Scott
So.Cal. 


<< Scott wrote:
 
 > there are too many other better
 > alternatives for surf zone rescue, including simply swimming your boat
 into >
 > shore.
 
 Scott,
 
 What are the other alternatives? I'd like to learn them.
 
 Jack Fu
 47°38'N 122°08'W >>
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From: Jeff Bingham <jbingham_at_amerijet.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cowboy Rescues vs. Paddlefloat in surf
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:33:37 -0400
At 09:39 AM 9/10/2000 -0400, KiAyker_at_aol.com wrote:
>   Well OK,  let’s review the various rescues applicable to the surf zone.
> 
>1. The Eskimo roll including the re-enter and roll.
>2. Simply climb back into the boat. This can be done with the cowboy rescue, 
>or any of the other variants (such as climbing directly into the cockpit) 
>that have been practiced and learned. 
>3. Swimming the boat back to shore.
>4. Swimming the boat out beyond the surf zone and then performing a 
>paddlefloat or assisted rescue.
>5. An assisted rescue. Although I do not recommend this unless the rescuer 
>has some experience performing assisted rescues in the surf. Otherwise you 
>could very easily end up with two people in the water, or worst, one or both 
>people injured and in the water.
>
>   Can anybody think of any I missed? 
>
>Scott
>So.Cal. 

Scott
I've been late on catching this thread but here it goes....

There is another possibility but I've only taught it in relatively small surf
of up to 3-4ft.
Once out of your boat set up your paddle float however you normally would,
then hand walk to the bow of your boat. While at the bow wait as the wave
sets pass you, when a wave passes and is lifting the stern of your boat lift
the bow and allow the water to drain, (the cockpit is over the trough of
the wave).
Now the fun part.
Get to the side of your boat, lay the paddle across the coaming, on the
coaming.
Hold the paddle down across the coaming with your bow side hand under the
coaming
and with your elbow on top to lock it in. 
Now with your stern side leg, hook the stern and push up on to
the back deck kicking yourself on up into the cowboy position.
It is very important at this point to have both hands holding the paddle
down against
the flat coaming extended out for support.
Scoot yourself forward to the cockpit moving the paddle forward as you go.
Swing your 
feet in or butt in and switch the paddle to a brace position. At this point
I'll have my 
students lay the paddle across the front deck and criss-cross the cross
deck rigging
over in order to buy time to put on their spray skirts. Then its deflate
the paddle float 
and stuff inside of their PFD's and off they go.
This system works best for those who have practiced in flat water first. 
It's sort of a cowboy-paddle float rescue.
Brgds, Jeff



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