In a message dated 9/12/00 9:08:31 AM, PeterO_at_ambri.com.au writes: << And in general, if anyone is still reading - is it easier to roll in the surf than in still water? Does the rotation of the water in the surf help? How can one take advantage of this? >> Hi Peter, While the general consensus is that it is easier to roll in quiet water and easiest of all to roll in a pool, I find that people with few bad habits and good technique have no difficulty rolling in conditions. Under some circumstances waves can be used to enhance a roll, but in actual conditions the roller may not have the presence of mind to take advantage of this fact. The good news is that a technically good roll works equally well in calm or textured waters. The better ones technique, the less perceived difference between effort of rolling calm vs rough waters. The more difficult task is to filter through all of the opinions and disinformation to distill the essence of good technique. A club mate of mine recently capsized for his first time in quite choppy surf, he had not yet gotten comfortable with a paddle roll so he let go of his paddle and did what he knew, a beautiful hand roll. His first combat roll was a gorgeous hands only roll with a strong forward lean at the start and end of the roll. The crowd was amazed, all except his teacher who understood the power of proper technique and the confidence that successful practice can inspire. Good luck, with your rolling studies. Give some thought to reading "The Bombproof Roll And Beyond", and Derek Hutchinson's descriptions on rolling in his books as well. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: Jack Fu [mailto:jack.fu_at_worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:16 AM To: Peter Osman Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Rolling in the surf? PeterO wrote: > There was also a comment some time back that just sticking out > a paddle when overturned in the surf might help, due to the rotation > of the water in the wave - any comments on this anyone? Yes indeed it works. I learned it from Nigel Foster in one of his surf clinics in Washington state. Say you are going to fall to your left and roll up on your right. Position yourself parallel to the beach with the waves coming in on your right. Wait for a wave that will break exactly where you are. Set up for a roll and let the wave push you over to your left (toward the beach). When upside down, sweep your paddle 90 degrees till it is perpendicular to the hull (like they do in C-to-C rolls) and HOLD IT THERE. Don't do anything else (like a hip snap). The back side of that same wave will push you back up without any work on your part. It feels like magic. You merely hold a position and - lo and behold - you're up! Do not do a hip snap. It is not needed. If you do a hip snap, not only will the wave push you back up, but you will fall over again because of too much momentum. Jack Fu 47°38'N 122°08'W *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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