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From: <NEWTOT_at_mail.modot.state.mo.us>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Summer Trip/Camelback
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:07:05 -0500
Sounds like a great trip!  I share your approval of the Caribou, it's my
favorite rental boat.  MBK is great to work with - too bad you didn't catch
their rental equipment sale coming up in October ($25 wetsuits!).  I took some
sea kayak classes from them.

Re:For instance, does anyone use a CamelBak [or similar] hydration device on
their deck?

I've been using a camelback on my deck, running the straps under the front deck
bungies.  It still slides around a bit during rolls and heats up on warm days,
but I have yet to find a more "quick and convenient" way to hydrate on long
trips where a water bottle won't suffice.   Loop the tube around a bungie so it
sticks up towards you, and you have "hands free" hydration.

I know PFDs come with "bladder pockets", but I believe they would interfere with
flotation and comfort.  Anyone try one of these  models?  I know they are
expensive.

Tim



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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Summer Trip/Camelback
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:49:31 -0700
NEWTOT_at_mail.modot.state.mo.us wrote:

> I know PFDs come with "bladder pockets", but I believe they would interfere with
> flotation and comfort.

Comfort, yes.  

Flotation?  Not if the bladder is fully immersed in water when you capsize --
water in water is buoyancy-neutral (ignoring the slight difference in density
between sea water and fresh water).

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
sea kayaker
chemist

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From: Bill Leonhardt <WJLeonhardt_at_bnl.gov>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Summer Trip/Camelback
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:10:52 -0400
At 01:07 PM 9/25/00 -0500, NEWTOT_at_mail.modot.state.mo.us wrote:
SNIP
>I've been using a camelback on my deck, running the straps under the front
deck
>bungies.  It still slides around a bit during rolls and heats up on warm
days,
>but I have yet to find a more "quick and convenient" way to hydrate on long
>trips where a water bottle won't suffice.   Loop the tube around a bungie
so it
>sticks up towards you, and you have "hands free" hydration.
>
SNIP

Regarding the use of a Camelback:

For typical 3 to 6 hour paddles with rest stops, I have relied on the
typical water bottles above and below deck.  Twice, however, I have
participated in the swim race around Manhattan Island (NYC) which winds up
having me in the boat for 11 hours without a break.  

Prior to doing the first race, I considered the logistics of staying
hydrated and I decided to try a camelback like device.  I purchased a cheap
copy in K-Mart and mounted it under the bungies just behind my cockpit.  I
clip the mouth tube to a bungee prior to getting in the boat.  Once in the
boat, I route the mouth tube under my arm and clip it to my PDF about 2 or
so inches below my chin.  The mouth tube clip allows the tube to slide
through it so I can slid the mouth tube to my mouth without unclipping it.
When I'm done drinking, I just let go and the tube returns to its place.

I have not had a problem with the mouth tube getting in the way, but it is
important to unclip it if you intend to exit the boat gracefully.  If you
need to exit ungracefully (ala wet exit), the strength of the clip will
allow it to let go and not hold you.

The advantages are that you can convieniently carry a lot more water than
the typical water bottles and you don't need to fish around below deck to
find a full one when the above deck one is empty.  Also, drinking becomes a
one hand operation.  (Actually, this could be a no-hand operation if you
like to paddle with the mouth tube in your mouth.)

The disadvantages are that, mine at least, has a very plastic-ee taste.
Also, since I don't trust my abitity to be able to clean the unit
effectively, I only use water.  These disadvantages, though, may be a
consequence of my buying a cheap unit and not a real Camelback.

YMMV,

Bill Leonhardt
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