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From: Larry Bliven <foxhill_at_shore.intercom.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] 2-brothers
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:17:42 -0400
a couple of young guys that i'm learning from are bothers (70 and 80). one
lives in Maryland, the other in Florida. each has more kayaks/canoes/bikes
than most folks ever think about. so when they do something, i watch
carefully. indeed the 1st son has been kayaking since he was 15, back then
no commercial boats were available so he made is own from vegetable crates
and canvas.

so what's new? well both have just acquired yet another boat and i had a
chance to check out what their latest water passion. since i  only had a
brief time to learn from them, i'd appreciate what folks on Paddlewise have
as follow on info.

for the young guy, he got a 'Monarch' which is a boat designed by V. Kruger
for long distance cruising.. it's a cross between a canoe and a kayak...
usually paddled with a single blade. it has a rudder... but the interesting
thing to me is that the rudder controls are by ones toes, over  solid pegs
for the balls of your feet. this set up seems to be very user friendly and
it eliminated one of my pet problems with rudder controls,  spongy foot
rests. My questions are: is this control assembly available for kayaks? if
so, which ones. and if not, why not?

for 1st son, he and his wife drove from Florida to Canada to buy a row boat.
now you can assume that this must be one nice boat.. so what is it? i read
it as 'sweet London's but i heard it pronounced as 'sweet London's.. at any
rate the boat is 17 ft, fiberglass, set up for both double or single rowers.
vee bow & stern, round/flat bottom. the boat looked very user friendly, fast
enough. sociable to the max. i learn of different oar lengths for different
seats, and oar balance for long distance cruising... i don't find a web site
for this boat. can any one help? and what are other row boats with similar
purpose.  i have to say, that this boat seems very practical/social for use
on  inland bays. and maybe a fleet is not balanced until canoes/kayaks and
row boats are all represented. any one out there been in contact with cool
row boats?

bye bye bliven


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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] 2-brothers
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:48:27 +1000
"the rudder controls are by ones toes, over  solid pegs
for the balls of your feet. this set up seems to be very user friendly and
it eliminated one of my pet problems with rudder controls,  spongy foot
rests. My questions are: is this control assembly available for kayaks? if
so, which ones. and if not, why not?"

This set up is available in Australia. It is what I have on my boat; a fixed
plate for the ball of the foot, with a hinged flap above controlled by the
toes. The rudder cord attaches to the top of the hinged section.
I had the misfortune to try out a boat with sliding rudder controls on the
weekend. I missed a roll when the foot control slid forward and I slid out
of the cockpit.

Regards,
Peter Treby
37* 42' S 145* 08' E



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From: Richard Wilson <kayaker_at_exis.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] 2-brothers
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:24:37 -0400
At 06:17 PM 09/04/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> but the interesting
>thing to me is that the rudder controls are by ones toes, over  solid pegs
>for the balls of your feet. this set up seems to be very user friendly and
>it eliminated one of my pet problems with rudder controls,  spongy foot
>rests. My questions are: is this control assembly available for kayaks? if
>so, which ones. and if not, why not?

I have this rudder assembly in my  5 year old Baldwin.  At the time my boat
was built, four of the kayak models available from Baldwin were offered
with an optional toe controlled rudder installed on adjustable foot braces.
 Baldwin Boat Company is a small kayak maker in Orrington, Maine.  I'm not
sure about their current product line. 

Richard

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From: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] 2-brothers
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:31:51 +1200
>  but the interesting
>thing to me is that the rudder controls are by ones toes, over  solid pegs
>for the balls of your feet. this set up seems to be very user friendly and
>it eliminated one of my pet problems with rudder controls,  spongy foot
>rests. My questions are: is this control assembly available for kayaks? if
>so, which ones. and if not, why not?


Available like that for a number of years in this country (New Zealand).

The first person to solo unsupported around the South Island (Brian 
Roberts) had us fit them soon after the start of his trip.

Alex
.
.


Alex (Sandy) Ferguson
Chemistry Department
University of Canterbury
New Zealand

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From: Grant Glazer <gdj_at_ihug.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] 2-brothers
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:16:09 +1200
>
> Available like that for a number of years in this country (New Zealand).
>
> Alex

So common in NZ, that after 6yrs of paddling the only kayak I've seen with
the sliding foot controls, was on a brand new Storm (about 6 months ago).
Took it for a test run and couldn't stand the foot pegs. No bracing and I
felt like I was peddling a bike! I thought it was a new design at the time
but now realise that it is an old design fitted to a new boat.  Why the
manufacturers fitted them, I don't know, They were one of the reasons I was
put off from buying the boat. Maybe some paddlers prefer them? Give me the
"gas pedal" type any day!

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