re: [Paddlewise] wave stuff

From: Bruce Winterbon <bwinterb_at_mail.magma.ca>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:10:53 -0400
Dave Kruger wrote, in response to my earlier post:
[I subscribe to thre digest, so it's easier for me to use cut and paste in
replying. Thus Dave's words don't have any preceding ">", and I've indicated
my replies with "BW>"]

Don't have access to any fluid dynamics books so I'm stuck with my physical
intuition ... which tells me that other properties of a fluid are involved here
also -- not just viscosity, per se.  What I'm thinking about is that it is the
visco-elastic restoring forces which affect gravity wave propagation, and those

BW> No. They're called gravity waves because the restoring force is gravity.
At very short wave lengths(a few cm or less), the restoring force is surface
tension, which is the only way in which inter-molecular forces can affect
the wave motion. Remember, since we're talking about waves, we're talking
about what is happening _away_ from the boat. Viscous drag is not a part of
wavemaking.
In fact you can see the capillary waves, those in which the restoring force
is surface tension, in front of your bow wave, if the water is otherwise
smooth enough. As we know, gravity waves are faster when the wavelength is
longer; capillary waves are the opposite. So on the leading edge of the cusp
on top of your bow wave, you can see very small waves running ahead, with
the shorter-wavelength ones leading.
Once you recognize them, you can see where the wind is putting capillary
waves on top of gravity waves, which will eventually make the gravity waves
bigger. Or you can see them around the beetles swimming on the (fresh-water)
surface, who use them instead of vision.

will be a function of the medium.  Tightly coupled molecules should respond to
a wave disturbance differently than ones that are not tightly coupled, giving
lesser amplitude for a given disturbance, but greater speed of gravity wave
propagation ... and that might give a different "ideal angle" for the bow wave.

Hmmmmm ... "more tightly coupled" may just translate into "more viscous." 

BW> I suspect so.

Maybe I'm all wet!

If the oceans were made of alcohol, gravity waves would travel at a lesser
speed, and could the bow wave angle be different than it is in water?  (I
assume the viscoelastic resotoring forces in sea water are pretty close to
those in fresh water, though the density is some 3 % different.)

BW> No. The critical thing is that the wavelength is proportional to the
square of the frequency. The constant of proportionality, i.e., the strength
of gravity, drops out.

This discussion may be more than most Paddlewisers want to know ...

BW> Maybe, but E. Sullivan very much enjoyed looking at her boat waves, and
with any natural phenomenon, the more clearly you understand them, the more
things you see in them to appreciate.
Bruce Winterbon
bwinterb_at_magma.ca
http://magma.ca:80/~bwinterb

A non-indexed pension is a fraud.


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