I am looking for some whitewater suggestions. Two of us have a week in mid-November for a road trip. We are looking for some III - IV (easy V is okay too) whitewater in either northern California, Oregon or Washington. The other half of this duo is looking at the Cataract Canyon of the Colorado, but I understand it is an ~100 mile trip with only ~ 5 miles of rapids. We do have the publications for those areas, but would like some opinions on what, if any, rivers are worth the drive from Idaho at this time of year. To make the communications easier, I would have no problem calling for the advise. Thanks for your consideration, JKL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John and Donna Looze writes: > I am looking for some whitewater suggestions. Two of us have a week in > mid-November for a road trip. We are looking for some III - IV (easy V is > okay too) whitewater in either northern California, Oregon or Washington. The > other half of this duo is looking at the Cataract Canyon of the Colorado, but > I understand it is an ~100 mile trip with only ~ 5 miles of rapids. We do > have the publications for those areas, but would like some opinions on what, You have 'Soggy Sneakers' by the Willamette Kayak and Canoe club then? > if any, rivers are worth the drive from Idaho at this time of year. I don't have my copy near me, so I can't verify river levels for that time of year, but that said.. In Washington I hear the White Salmon is a great class IV run. I havn't done this one, but I keep hearing about it. I run the McKenzie a great deal as its nearly in my backyard, but thats really class II+. Upper McKenzie (Ollalie to Paradise) has a continuous class II+ thats rated III overall. It sounds like your interested in more something more challenging. For something closer to you, think about the Lower Metolius (III-IV). I've also run the Little North Santiam (III-IV) - Trolls teeth is a great rapid to run 8) Also, consider the Wild & Scenic portion of the Rogue if your able to self support and definatly look into N. Umpqua. If your interesting in hooking up with other boaters - WKCC (Willamette Kayak and Canoe Club) has an online calendar: http://www.wkcc.org/trips/trip1000.htm They also have a list of runs that have not made it into Soggy Sneakers: http://www.wkcc.org/riverinfo/miscruns2.htm - one of which is in SE Oregon (Donner Und Blitzen). Glen Acord - Eugene, OR WKCC, OKCC, OOPS Mariner II, Neckie Rip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Also, consider the Wild & Scenic portion of the Rogue I grew up in Grants Pass, Oregon and I can testify that some of the prettiest country I've seen is along the Rogue River between Grants Pass, and Gold Beach. I worked for the Forest Service inventorying the Siskiyou National Forest along the Rogue two summers. We worked upriver from Agness and traveled with an old prospector/riverboatman in a river boat like a New England dory with a 50 HP outboard. If we made it, you should be able to do so. I do know that it's rough enough that someone dies out there every year or two. They used to have a race from Agness up the river a way, and back in outboard boats. The year I watched, 17 boats started and only two finished. The rest met rocks along the way. You'd want to check the water flow and talk to someone who's done it, but one summer a group of kayaks came along just as my partner and I had entered the very cold water for our first bath in a 10 day work period. We submerged as they went by and we were totally purple by the time they went past and we exited the ice water. It took about 20 minutes of hugging hot boulders for the teeth to stop chattering. That's with an air temperature of around 100 degrees F. It's gorgeous, wild country, loaded with wildlife, brown bears, river otter, and LOTS of rattlesnakes. If you decide to do this one, get hold of the book, Rogue River, I think it's by Zane Grey, and spot the locations in it as you do the river. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. daflory_at_pacbell.net Go Sea Kayaking!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. ©2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[resent to paddlewise: Daves comments on the Rogue are applicable to more than just I alone - Glen 8] > Also, consider the Wild & Scenic portion of the Rogue I grew up in Grants Pass, Oregon and I can testify that some of the prettiest country I've seen is along the Rogue River between Grants Pass, and Gold Beach. I worked for the Forest Service inventorying the Siskiyou National Forest along the Rogue two summers. We worked upriver from Agness and traveled with an old prospector/riverboatman in a river boat like a New England dory with a 50 HP outboard. If we made it, you should be able to do so. I do know that it's rough enough that someone dies out there every year or two. They used to have a race from Agness up the river a way, and back in outboard boats. The year I watched, 17 boats started and only two finished. The rest met rocks along the way. You'd want to check the water flow and talk to someone who's done it, bu t one summer a group of kayaks came along just as my partner and I had entered the very cold water for our first bath in a 10 day work period. We submerged as they went by and we were totally purple by the time they went past and we exited the ice water. It took about 20 minutes of hugging hot boulders for the teeth to stop chattering. That's with an air temperature of around 100 degrees F. It's gorgeous, wild country, loaded with wildlife, brown bears, river otter, and LOTS of rattlesnakes. If you decide to do this one, get hold of the book, Rogue River, I think it's by Zane Grey, and spot the locations in it as you do the river. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. daflory_at_pacbell.net Go Sea Kayaking!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. A92000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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