In a message dated 12/1/00 1:22:03 PM, LedJube_at_aol.com writes: << I'm a fan of the BCU 3 star being the definition of an Intermediate. A solid 3 Star should be able to handle any non-expert conditions >> Though I'm tempted to agree with this I think there truly are not that many paddlers who can pass 3 star assessment for one reason or another. As most people will never be close enough to big water to think about a 4 star, 3 star really is the highest level most inland paddlers will reach. Maybe it would be better, if we are going to define levels to make it a "can do this, can do this, etc. definition that we might actually be able to use. This is an ongoing discussion both here on PW and in our club. We have a few 3 star and fewer 4 star paddlers but that is because some don't want to bother being certified. But the VAST majority of paddlers have been paddling 2, 3, 4 years and though they can generally handle themselves in the majority of circumstances they would find themselves in on club paddles they might be able to pass the 2 star assessment. They may well see themselves as intermediate padders because they are measuring themselves against the even newer paddlers or the ones who just don't get out all that often. The following is the way we rate skills directly from the newsletter: First Timers: for those who have never paddled before. Beginners: for those who have paddled some, taken classes, or been on short (up to 4-mile) trips and are able to do a wet exit and paddle float reentry. Advanced Beginners: for those who have been on longer trips (up to 10 miles, full day outings), have some experience with varying conditions such as winds, and waves, and have good rescue and group-paddling skills. Intermediate Paddlers: for those who are comfortable on longer trips (more than 10 miles), can maintain a steady pace for extended periods, are comfortable with open water crossings of 2+ miles, can handle a variety of water conditions, and have strong self- and group-rescue skills. This yardstick we can agree on as a club. When I went to a skills workshop and we were asked to self rate most called themselves advanced beginners and I knew many of them were better than I was. By the above definition I was an intermediate paddler. I was amazed because I really had no other criteria than the CPA rating. I wonder if developing a rating system that really helps people understand their strengths and limitations by listing the skills in a simple form might not help both formal and informal groups judge the conditions and paddlers. I'd like to see some work on lists of skills that address local conditions developed. There should only be a few general categories with additions to special local conditions. Skill levels in our club don't even address surf. I don't know if the criteria used for Duane's trip defined what intermediate was and if surf was addressed if there was a definition. I might chicken out on any paddle that requires surf lands because I've ended up picking sand out of my ears for 3 days after a few of those. Even gentle surf upsets me especially trying to land without getting creamed. I'm just too stiff to get out fast enough. I could easily be the one being brushed off as friends laughed at me as I spat sand out of my mouth. Wouldn't be the first time. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri Dec 01 2000 - 12:17:03 PST
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