I like to wait to roll under at the last second. Since you won't begin your roll up until after the wave passes over you and the turbulence stops, you want to minimize the amount of time you're holding your breath. Since I've been doing a lot of cardio cross training, I'm able to hold my breath quite a long time. Being able to hold your breath a long time keeps you relaxed as you are being violently tossed around upside down. (It's fun with the right gear and deep water). Also, keep your paddle close to the "set up" position. I had forgot to do this once and while I was holding onto my paddle above my head, I felt I was in a torture chamber being stretched. One other important skill in doing this comfortably is being able to roll your kayak without a spray skirt (a swamped boat). Practice this OUT of the surf zone first. Several times while playing in the surf in my sea kayak, the spray skirt has popped off. Rolling a swamped kayak isn't that difficult, but the boat does roll more slowly. Having the ability to hold your breath a long time and the confidence of being able to roll a fully swamped boat will serve you well. You won't panic. (Duane Strosaker taught me that). When I practice in the surf, I use the wood Aleutian paddle I built. No feathered Euro paddle for me; since this is the paddle I use 99% of the time. My paddle has survived a lot of surfing at San Onofre with lots of hard stern rudders. Hopefully, it will continue to serve me well. Enjoy the surf. jim gabriel - who has eaten it more than once in the surf. >From owner-owner_at_ns1.intelenet.net Sun Dec 3 14:34 PST 2000 Received: from ns.intelenet.net (ns.intelenet.net [204.182.160.1]) by qajaq.myers.intelenet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA21280 for <jackie_at_qajaq.intelenet.net>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.intelenet.net ([204.182.160.31]) by ns.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28429 for <jackie_at_intelenet.net>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.intelenet.net (ns.intelenet.net [204.182.160.1]) by ns1.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06387 Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.intelenet.net ([204.182.160.31]) by ns.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28423 for <owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom_at_localhost) by ns1.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06339; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012032229.OAA06339_at_ns1.intelenet.net> To: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: BOUNCE paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net: Approval required: Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2352 X-Lines: 53 Status: RO Received: from ns.intelenet.net (ns.intelenet.net [204.182.160.1]) by ns1.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06299 Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:22 -0800 (PST) From: NEWTOT_at_mail.modot.state.mo.us Received: from asphalt.modot.state.mo.us (asphalt.modot.state.mo.us [168.166.124.13]) by ns.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28413 for <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 14:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sclngwy1.modot.state.mo.us (mail.modot.state.mo.us [10.1.1.156]) by asphalt.modot.state.mo.us (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA08210; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:22:33 -0600 Received: by sclngwy1.modot.state.mo.us(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 862569AA.007ADCF9 ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:21:59 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MODOT To: rpmmax_at_gate.net cc: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Message-ID: <862569AA.007ADC68.00_at_sclngwy1.modot.state.mo.us> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:28:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Info on accountability. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Pete, You stated: An individual paddler is always 100% responsible for their own actions. Excuses (my boat is too short or it's just a S-O-T and not fast enough) don't cut it. We, as the legal (and moral) master of a vessel, must accept all responsibility for that craft and crew (of one or two). I don't mean that at all! Everyone gets used to their boat and develops the skills necessary to control it. The point Bill and I were trying to make was that the amount of effort and skill required to do this is different for each boat. A weather cocking boat is going to take a lot more of both to keep with a pack of hard tracking ones. The hard trackers are going to require more skill to turn in tight quarters. Yes, with developed techniques this becomes easier, but it is certainly more demanding. Many boats are ranked "beginner or expert" because of this. I accept the fact that I must be proficient paddler for my plastic boat to keep up with a fast fiberglass one. With the debate raging on skill levels, we MUST look at the individual's boat. Point: Don't classify a paddler's skill level or effort without looking at his vessel! There is a degree of difficulty involved. This forum is just another utility to help us master our vessels. Tim Boat'n in the Ozarks *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sun Dec 03 2000 - 14:46:41 PST
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