Kirby asked: <<<If you can, then try explaining what an expert paddler is.>>> I hope I'm not impertinent, but...would that be an expert river paddler, expert ocean paddler, surf zone paddler...canoe or wave ski, SOT, outrigger or just what? Or is the "expert paddler" in question a generic paddlesports person we are trying to envision? Maybe an expert paddler is one who has varied experience with respect to _all_ the above paddlecraft. Most of the discussion on PW centers around sea kayaking (and big lakes), so shall I assume that's what we want to question? What exactly is an expert sea paddler? I certainly haven't met many. And I wish I were one. I think I know what one looks like: Nigel Foster seems like an expert sea kayaker. If one wants to rather look at the various specific expressions of paddlesports as we know it, I certainly can think of some great examples. Scott comes to mind, in terms of surf kayaking. Then there is Duane, when it comes to crossings; and Kevin exemplifies the river paddler. Would I call any of these guys experts? Not necessarily. I do have a term for them however: Advanced paddlers. They have "advanced" beyond the scope and realm of the normally well understood term of "intermediate" with respect to what they do. While there are many armchair paddlers on PW, there are also many advanced paddlers that have excelled beyond the merely proficient in there various pursuits. But I bet we are all happy and enjoy our level of participation -- whatever level it happens to be. It is also a big world out there, and PW represents but a minute fraction of paddlers of all levels. Is Don Diamond an expert paddler? Or is he an expert at crossings. What about Ed Gillette. I bet these guys don't consider themselves experts -- just very avid paddlers, who have made a distinguished contribution to the sport of paddling. I'm sure they have advanced skill sets far beyond the norm -- or perhaps just different thresholds for monotony :-) Do we have any experts amongst us? Yes and no. No, I don't consider most of us as expert paddlers, when it comes to actual paddling. Even guys like Kevin have only been at it a few years. Yes, we do have some "experts". Guys like Matt come to mind. His knowledge, experience and understanding of the many aspects of paddling is profound. There are also many specific aspects where certain people stand out in the sport of kayaking: competition paddling within the various disciplines; noteworthy designers and innovators; and those who are of a particular exploratory zeal. Can there be expert "paddlers"? Can there be overall expert paddlers. Well again, it _would_ be hard for me not to agree that Nigel Foster and his ilk are not preponderantly expert paddlers in terms of their particular pursuit of paddling. If I could come up with the attributes of an expert paddler, it would certainly include manifold experience over many decades. Quantity plus quality. I know a few guys like this, but they would submit to you the suggestion that they were simply "experienced" paddlers (perhaps highly experienced) but, not experts. If I were a lawyer involved with a trial involving, say, an ocean kayaking incident, I would call in an "expert witness". Someone with requisite knowledge and experience. Again, someone like Matt or John Winters comes to mind. But I doubt these guys would expand chests at the thought of that. Few "experts" do. I also wouldn't necessarily say that certification guarantees an expert paddler. I've paddled with some of the best, and I'd rather paddle with some of the rest (then again, solo is even better). Someone may be a very "expert" technical paddler, but may have the emotional intelligence of an electric eel. This doesn't bode well in group paddling dynamics, at least. Does an expert paddler have to have excellent leadership skills, or just be an excellent paddler? I do know one thing that overrides my own fascist little mind: A _good paddler_ is always evolving and growing in paddlesports. You have never "arrived". There is always so much more to learn, to experience, to see and do and become. Like the shifting sand on a beach, perceptions and ways of relating to the sport can change from year to year. Once you do become an advanced paddler in your chosen pursuit (something quantifiable for anyone with a bit of common sense), you then spend the rest of your life trying to become an expert -- in a positive, progressive sense. Oh, and group paddling (getting back to group paddling -- the original thread I think)? "Good" paddlers are always sharing their knowledge and concern with and for other paddlers. Even on a social paddle, there are always teachable moments for those with a watchful eye. This can be hard or soft skills, or just a verbal note about some of the flora and fauna around. Life is sharing with an open heart. You don't have to be "Hitlering" or micromanaging anybody in order to share and teach -- where a bit of teaching is wanted or indicated or useful (if not, then you ARE culpable). A paddler aspiring to developing expertise would use opportunities as appropriate to help instill some confidence and skill development into the less-than-perfect intermediate and/or new paddler. This is said without any animosity or specificity to recent posts. I have no settled opinions to advance here either -- just some personal convictions that have washed up on my little bit of beach. It would also take an expert to judge an expert, so who is going to do that. Perhaps that was your point, Mr. Kirby :-) DL (who wrote this Friday, and waited to hit "send" for a few days) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Dec 05 2000 - 08:29:09 PST
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