Dear Friends: Jacqueline and I eagerly await the arrival of our Romany Explorers, which are now being made in Wales. Until they arrive, we are occupying ourselves by kayaking in the Mediterranean three times a week, and practicing for the arrival of Nigel Dennis himself with whom we will hopefully pass our 4-star BCU certification (I'll still be happy with 3, but Jacqueline, who by now has a great roll, is pushing for 4). Yesterday I had a breakthrough, and finally am able to high brace with ease. This has taken me a long time to learn. I have seen descriptions of this brace in books, and they differ somewhat from each other. I am talking about the brace in which you are actually falling over, but you extend your paddle and brace on the water to right yourself, in a sweeping motion. We are getting the sculliing brace down too. Back to racks. Thule racks seems to be available here, not Yakima. I want to get a Thule, but I am of two minds about the saddles. There are times when Jacqueline will need to cartop the Romany Explorer by herself. Thule has some kind of side extension bar for this (they call it "Outrigger Lift Assist"), which I could use with their Hydro-glide Saddle Carrier or their H2Go Saddle Carrier (any preferences?) but I really can't see from their website how this extension is supposed to help. The Yakima Hully Rollers seem good, but I'm not sure they will fit on Thule racks. I'd appreciate any advice here, particularly from women who have to cartop by themselves. And while, friends, you are discussing dry-suit neck gaskets, I think I'll put on Fuzzy Rubber (love that Rapidstyle stuff -- I have no business connection to Dan Chladek!) and go for a paddle! With much appreciation for all the great discussions on this list, Happy and Peaceful New Year, Josh Ra`anana, Israel ============================================================================== Dr. Joshua Teitelbaum Tel: [972] 3-640-6448 Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and Fax: [972] 3-641-5802 African Studies E-mail:teitelba_at_ccsg.tau.ac.il Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978 Israel ============================================================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 00-12-28 01:08:52 EST, teitelba_at_post.tau.ac.il writes: << There are times when Jacqueline will need to cartop the Romany Explorer by herself. Thule has some kind of side extension bar for this (they call it "Outrigger Lift Assist"), which I could use with their Hydro-glide Saddle Carrier or their H2Go Saddle Carrier (any preferences?) but I really can't see from their website how this extension is supposed to help. >> Joshua, I've seen the Thule rack with extension bar and it really works great. You slide it out (thus making the rack REALLY long). Place the bow of your boat on that extension, walk to the back, and then left the stern up over the cradle, walk to the front and lift the bow over. My only concern was that I don't believe they have one with extenders on both sides for loading two boats. Does anybody know if they do? I got Thule saddles with my prorac.com system for the VW EuroVan camper. I like them better than my Yakimas because they seem to flex easily to adjust for different boat shapes. I have solved the difficult-to-slide-a-boat problem by buying some black outdoor carpeting (in Home Depot in the US) and then sticking it over the rubber with outdoor carpeting adhesive and holding it in place with clamps. The boats slide beautifully and I don't need the Hully Rollers. sandy kramer miami *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
sandy wrote: > I have solved the difficult-to-slide-a-boat problem by buying some black > outdoor carpeting (in Home Depot in the US) and then sticking it over the > rubber with outdoor carpeting adhesive and holding it in place with clamps. > The boats slide beautifully and I don't need the Hully Rollers. Another possibility is to travel with an old blanket or furniture pad in the trunk. Drape the pad over the rear saddle and down the back of the car. Now, lift the bow of the kayak onto the padded trunk, and push it up onto the padded saddle and then forward onto the unpadded saddle. Finally, lift the stern of the boat just enough to pull the pad out. This works equally well for getting the boat down off the car solo. Bob V *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks, Sandy. There are several options. I now must see what is really available here. Josh At 18:11 28/12/00, Gypsykayak_at_aol.com wrote: >Joshua, I've seen the Thule rack with extension bar and it really works >great. You slide it out (thus making the rack REALLY long). Place the bow >of your boat on that extension, walk to the back, and then left the stern up >over the cradle, walk to the front and lift the bow over. My only concern >was that I don't believe they have one with extenders on both sides for >loading two boats. Does anybody know if they do? > >I got Thule saddles with my prorac.com system for the VW EuroVan camper. I >like them better than my Yakimas because they seem to flex easily to adjust >for different boat shapes. > >I have solved the difficult-to-slide-a-boat problem by buying some black >outdoor carpeting (in Home Depot in the US) and then sticking it over the >rubber with outdoor carpeting adhesive and holding it in place with clamps. >The boats slide beautifully and I don't need the Hully Rollers. > >sandy kramer >miami Dr. Joshua Teitelbaum, Research Fellow Tel: [972] 3-640-6448 Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and Fax: [972] 3-641-5802 African Studies Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978 Israel E-mail:teitelba_at_ccsg.tau.ac.il www.dayan.org ============================================================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Joshua - I cartop my Greenlander by myself with the following system: Thule racks, using H2Otogo saddles in front and Hully Rollers in back. "In back" on my station wagon means by the back seat windows, not way in the back near the hatchback. Thule (or Yakima?) sells little adapters that will allow the Hully Rollers to go on the Thule racks. They are called Mighty Mounts and are relatively cheap. All components can be mixed and matched with the right adapters. My procedure is as follows: Put a towel on top of the car, covering the area where the roof meets the back. Put a piece of foam, pad, or towel on the ground 10 feet or so behind the car. Carry the boat at waist height until you get near the car. As the bow nears the back of the car, angle it up a little so that the bow will rest on on the towel on the roof and the stern will sit on the pad. Now move nearer the stern of the resting boat (never taking your hand off it is is windy), lift it up and push forward until the boat is able to touch the Hully Rollers (mine are fairly far forward of the rear of the car). Now the boat is supported on the Hully Rollers, the rear of the car, and your hands or shoulder. Now push all the way forward until the boat is in the position you want. Remove towel and pad and put back in car. For about 3 days, I tried to use the extension bar that Thule sells, but it just didn't make any sense for me (short) or for my boat (big and long). I would have had to push it way up over my head to go over the edges of the load bars and again over the edges of the saddles, and the boat ended up in an unstable position where it was likely to fall. I still can't figure out how the extension bar could be useful. I also tried for a few days to use the saddles both front and rear, but found the Hully Rollers really eased the pushing forward motion. So now I probably have the most expensive rack system on earth, what with all the things I've tried, but I look it at this way: now I have spares! The Hydro Glide saddles, a newer option, look like they might possibly work as well as the rollers in the rear, but I haven't tried them. Best of luck! Anne Burton Falmouth, Maine *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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