Kevon wrote: > ... because most kayakers transport their craft on top of their > automobiles, which are also "noisy, polluting, high horsepower, internal > combustion thrill machines" of a different sort. And though autos are much > cleaner burning than jet skis, there are heck of a lot more of them. Given this > info, I think it is kind of hypocritical to talk about banning jet skis from > wilderness areas, even I fully support it. I personally feel a lot of guilt >>from driving all the time to go kayaking, and I wonder if any others on this > list feel the same way? I do. And I acted accordingly, some years ago. When I turned 18 (at which age Germans are allowed to dirve cars) I decided not to get a driver licence (but to get a touring bicycle :-). I also got into folding kayaks mainly because of those kayaks allow me to go kayaking at different places by using public transport only. 7 years later, I still have no licence and travel around very successfully with my folding kayaks, using public transport (okay, sometimes I get the occasional ride with some of my car driving paddle friends). I know Europeans are quite blessed with both geographical density and quality of public transport. I know it can be a different matter in many parts of North America. But if you try hard enough, you'll find ways to go to wild places using a car less and less. Car-sharing companies and "share-a-ride" companies (Mitfahrzentralen - you share a particular ride with one or more passengers) are quite successful in Germanies larger towns. You could always try to share a car with your paddling buddies, paddle round trips so there's no need for a "shuttle car" to get back to the first car etc. For those of you willing to travel by fair means only: I am currently preparing an article on "transporting a folding kayak by bicycle". This is intended for a German folding kayak website, but if you beg hard enough, I'll try to translate it into English ;-). Marian (sometimes dogmatic) environmentalist *and* (always dogmatic) kayaker ;-) Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany www.mariangunkel.de *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Marian Gunkel wrote: > > > For those of you willing to travel by fair means only: I am currently > preparing an article on "transporting a folding kayak by bicycle". This is > intended for a German folding kayak website, but if you beg hard enough, > I'll try to translate it into English ;-). I think we would all like to see it. I have had several articles in my newsletter in the past about using a bike to transport a folding kayak. In one, a fellow used a bike to move around on Nantucket with his foldable, using a trailer he made. It allowed him to travel from the ferry to his bed and breakfast with the boat in its bags. Then, once he made the boat (a double Klepper), he was able to bring the assembled boat behind him on the bike trailer. The only problem was on those large cobblestone streets in the old town. In another article, a fellow used a combination of a folding bike, child's bike trailer and a folding kayak when he sailed the entire East Coast from Florida to Maine. He used the bike and folded down boat to get around stretches in which the wind wasn't cooperating or to go into town. He also made every part of the setup do double duty. For example, parts of the trailer were use to form outriggers and a steering rod. It was quite a setup and looked like something a hobo might use. But, it needn't be so exotic. At the Downtown Boathouse, I have regularly seen a few individuals come in with K-Lights on the back of their bikes. So it isn't all that much of a novelty. Still the idea of a folding bike with a folding kayak is certainly an enviromentally, guilt-free combination. ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Marian Gunkel wrote: > > For those of you willing to travel by fair means only: I am currently > > preparing an article on "transporting a folding kayak by bicycle". > >In one, a fellow used a bike to move around on Nantucket with his >foldable, using a trailer he made...... > >In another article, a fellow used a combination of a folding bike, >child's bike trailer and a folding kayak when he sailed the entire East... We had to dinner last night, a friend, who used to transport his Puffin (plastic) by bike trailer. Longest trip about 300 km (on land). He has never had a driver's licence, doesn't intend to either. He mainly interested in cycle touring rather than kayaking. He often does/has done long tours, months at a time, in various countries of the world. So bike transport of kayaks isn't limited to folding boats though 5 metres of kayak out behind is the bike equivalent of a Mack truck. Alex Alex (Sandy) Ferguson Chemistry Department University of Canterbury New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "ralph diaz" <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com> To: "Marian Gunkel" <marian-list_at_gmx.de> Cc: <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] access to water without cars (was: Kayaker's guilt) Ralph wrote: >I have had several articles in my > newsletter in the past about using a bike to transport a folding kayak. > > In one, a fellow used a bike to move around on Nantucket with his > foldable, using a trailer he made. Etc. Reminds me of the old salt who dressed and talked like a sailor but rode a bike around the streets of Nantucket. After watching him do this for a long time, a little boy asked him, "Mr. Sailor, how come you always ride a bike and never sail your ship. The old salt responded: "Sonny, that's because my barque is worse than my bike!" Sorry, couldn't resist. Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I wrote: >> For those of you willing to travel by fair means only: I am currently >> preparing an article on "transporting a folding kayak by bicycle". This is >> intended for a German folding kayak website, but if you beg hard enough, >> I'll try to translate it into English ;-). Ralph wrote: > I think we would all like to see it. Okay. I'll do my best to finish it within the next couple of days. The Other Ralph has generously offered his help in translating the article into English. So, no need for daughters translating it (thanks Joan, anyway). The article will contain both methods for a normal bike, as well as for folding bikes. I am sure one can adapt those methods to transporting a rigid kayak, too. Regards, Marian Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany www.mariangunkel.de *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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