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From: patmossz <patmossz_at_bellsouth.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:45:09 -0500
Recently, on behalf of the "Tuesday Paddlers of Florida" , I ask an outfitter
in the FL Keys if they would consider a Senior category to their annual races.
They have two age categories, 39 and under, and those 40 and  older. Since we
are a group of age 60 and older, (the oldest two being 79,who seem to have no
trouble with a 10 mile paddle), felt we should be able to compete in a group
commensurate with our age group. We are neither decrepit nor infirmed. We are
ex-sailboat owners, ex-dentists, ex-skiers, teachers,brokers, you name it, who
enjoy paddling in a different area every week. 





The group was started by David Seeley some years ago with the idea that a
Tues.. paddle would be subjected to less crowded situations both on the road
and in the water. His idea proved correct. One week we may paddle deep in the
heart of the Everglades, the next Paddle the Atlantic Ocean around Key
Biscayne and the next may be a campout in Big Pine Key next to Key West. We
don't do whitewater and we prefer take-outs near a good bar and restaurants.
Our comfortable paddles are 10 to 13 NM, although we can do more or less.





The reply to our request was there aren't really enough senior paddlers out
there to make a class. We didn't feel the request was out of order and don't
really think of ourselves as an oddity or really unusual. We didn't decide
that because we are 60 we should do something physical. most of us have been
adventurers of sorts all our lives, I dove Lake Atitilan in Guatemala when I
was 18, The Great Barrier Reef in "middle age" whatever that is. Climbed the
Italian Alps a couple of years ago, paddled The Outer Hebrides this past
summer, and don't really intend to stop anytime soon. 





I don't expect to compete with the "kids" who are the current heroes, I just
want to continue  playing the game. Is the Outfitter correct, or are there a
lot of us, (as I suspect).


Pat moss





  





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From: Bob Volin <bobvolin_at_bestweb.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:45:57 -0500
Just passed 59 and paddling fast toward my next big Zero.  Do I qualify or
are you gonna make me wait a year?
    Bob V

> I don't expect to compete with the "kids" who are the current heroes, I
just
> want to continue  playing the game. Is the Outfitter correct, or are there
a
> lot of us, (as I suspect).
>
>
> Pat moss


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From: Robert J. Matter <rjmatter_at_PRODIGY.NET>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:01:16 -0600
Bob Volin wrote:
> 
> Just passed 59 and paddling fast toward my next big Zero.  Do I qualify or
> are you gonna make me wait a year?
>     Bob V

I'd say anyone who qualifies for membership in AARP (55 years) deserves to  all the rights, privileges, (and discounts) of being a senior.

-Bob Matter
Hammond, IN
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From: patmossz <patmossz_at_bellsouth.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:25:55 -0500
 Bob, You or any P'wiser are welcome to paddle with us any time you are in
the area.......However, as it is now we have no events in South Florida with
"senior categories", so even if you're in your 70's you will compete with
those in their 40's. True, races are not a significant factor in any of our
lives, but the point is, this situation is defacto exclusion of older
paddlers.
Pat Moss

> Just passed 59 and paddling fast toward my next big Zero.  Do I qualify or
> are you gonna make me wait a year?
>     Bob V


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From: patmossz <patmossz_at_bellsouth.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:48:23 -0500
 Age brackets certainly have their place, but as you are all well aware,
they aren't always an indicator of skill and ability.

Of course age is not an absolute indictor of skill or ability. BUT and this
is a big but, this is where the average Joe comes in. One should not have to
be a superman (or woman) to compete. There should be a category that allows
all who are prepared (mentally & physically) to play the game.
Pat Moss



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From: Fernando Lopez Arbarello <kayak_argentina_at_uol.com.ar>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Senior paddlers, how many are there
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:55:08 -0300
----- Original Message -----
From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>

> Remember that the alternative to growing old isn't exactly pleasant, i.e.
> dying off!!!
> (snip)...
> The sea knows no age.  We are all alien on its waters no matter how sleek
a
> kayak we paddle or level of skill.  The best way to blend in to its
majesty
> and forces is to let go of ourselves and that seems to be something older
> folk can do best, i.e. the nothing-to-prove point mentioned above.

Some years ago, I had the pleasure to meet Verlen Krugger (then 62) and his
wife, Valerie Fons (then 44), during their leg trough Buenos Aires, when
they paddled from Alaska to Ushuaia crossing all the continent. Y haven´t
seen many wealthy and strong people as Verlen in his 62. They told me they
just got married and left off for a honeymoon, ..., whant a honeymoon !!!.
It took them 2 years but they made it !

Our oldest kayaker in Argentina is "Guillermo Basombrío". He is now 75 and
has spent the month of April during the last twoo years at the entrance of
"Cape Horn", Fireland, Patagonia, waiting for the weather to calm down and
let him make the final 40 km crossing. Maybe he´ll be lucky this year and
finally reach it. The amazing part is he started late in this sport, I think
he was 60 whe he retired and tried sea-kayaking for the first time.

Now I am 34, but I wish I´ll have only a half of their health when I reach
their age.

Best regards !

Fernando Lopez Arbarello
Kayak Argentina - Sea Kayaking Mailing List
kayak_argentina_at_uol.com.ar


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