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From: Melissa Reese <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Ferrule (was: Re: 2-piece paddle problem)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:32:32 -0800
Kathleen wrote:

>>>...the problem doesn't seem to be with the ferrule (that's the 
button, right?)...<<<

and John replied:

>>As someone else mentioned, the ferrule is made of the the two
connecting pieces.  Ferrules are also commonly found on fishing
rods.<<

Actually... the ferrule is only the outer sleeve of the connection - 
not really the combination of the two parts.  It's more clearly 
demonstrated in a wooden two part paddle - being the [usually metal] 
sleeve that connects the two wooden halves.  Composite paddles make 
the distinction a little less clear, as the ferrule is simply 
incorporated into the "open" end of one half of the paddle.    

Speaking of ferrules Kathleen... don't forget the ferrule on the frog 
of your bow - the little silver sleeve that holds the horse hair 
block into the frog.  (to non-musician paddlewisers - I'm speaking of 
the bow used with a bowed musical instrument - not a boaty bow).  
This only applies to "modern" bows, as baroque bow frogs don't have 
ferrules.  

Then of course there are the various feral critters (frogs 
included)... but that's another thing entirely.

Melissa 


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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Ferrule (was: Re: 2-piece paddle problem)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:11:07 -0500
At 09:32 AM 1/9/01 -0800, Melissa Reese wrote:
>Kathleen wrote:
>
>>>>...the problem doesn't seem to be with the ferrule (that's the 
>button, right?)...<<<
>
>and John replied:
>
>>>As someone else mentioned, the ferrule is made of the the two
>connecting pieces.  Ferrules are also commonly found on fishing
>rods.<<
>
>Actually... the ferrule is only the outer sleeve of the connection - 
>not really the combination of the two parts.  It's more clearly 
>demonstrated in a wooden two part paddle - being the [usually metal] 
>sleeve that connects the two wooden halves.  Composite paddles make 
>the distinction a little less clear, as the ferrule is simply 
>incorporated into the "open" end of one half of the paddle.  

>From a flyfishermans perspective I've always thought of the 
ferrule as "whatever pieces are necessary to make the connection".
In the case of the metal/brass ferrules on my bamboo rods they're
referred to as the male ferrule and female ferrule (I've replace
the male part on one of them).

On composite (fiberglass or graphite) rods there are three different
kinds of ferrules that I have seen.  I've built four fishing rods from
blanks so I've had to make ferrules for them. Since the rod is tapered and
hollow, a piece can be cut out of a one piece rod and the skinny
piece inserted into the thicker piece.  The second option is to 
epoxy glue a smaller diamer cylinder of composite material into the skinny
piece which fits into the thicker piece.  That's how most composite
paddles are done.  The third way is to get a cylinder which fits over
the outside of the skinny piece that has an inner diameter which holds
the thicker piece. 

  
>
>Then of course there are the various feral critters (frogs 
>included)... but that's another thing entirely.

Not to mention Fair URLS, which is a collection of web sites
about places to go to see has-been rock bands and monster truck pulls.
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Ferrule (was: Re: 2-piece paddle problem)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:31:48 -0500
From: "Melissa Reese" <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>

>  baroque bow frogs 

This phrase evokes such a strong image of a bizarre kayak
"hood ornament"!

Mike

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From: Hayes, Jeffrey D <jeffrey.d.hayes_at_intel.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Ferrule (was: Re: 2-piece paddle problem)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:06:51 -0800
At risk of pointing out the obvious, dictionaries are a great way of
resolving the meaning of words.  According to Webster's Revised Unabridged
Dictionary...

ferrule \Fer"rule\ (? or ?; 277), n. [Formerly verrel, F. virole, fr. L.
viriola little bracelet, dim. of viriae, pl., bracelets; prob. akin to viere
to twist, weave, and E. withe. The spelling with f is due to confusion with
L. ferrum iron.] 1. A ring or cap of metal put round a cane, tool, handle,
or other similar object, to strengthen it, or prevent splitting and wearing.

2. (Steam Boilers) A bushing for expanding the end of a flue to fasten it
tightly in the tube plate, or for partly filling up its mouth

Judging from these, I would expect that the word "ferrule" refers strictly
to the outer sleeve and not the other half which inserts into the sleeve.
However, careful research on www.everything2.com (the website for the
eclectic in all of us) turns up the fact that in fishing rods, the term
ferrule does, in fact, apply to both the male and female halves of the
coupling.  Sadly, it would appear that without a definitive ruling as it
applies to paddles, we will only be able to speculate endlessly on the topic
-- much like the debate about rudders & skegs *chuckle*.

Jeff Hayes
Settling nothing but doing it in an authoritative fashion...


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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Ferrule (was: Re: 2-piece paddle problem)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:35:31 -0500
From: "Hayes, Jeffrey D" <jeffrey.d.hayes_at_intel.com>


> Judging from these, I would expect that the word "ferrule" refers strictly
> to the outer sleeve and not the other half which inserts into the sleeve.
> However, careful research on www.everything2.com (the website for the
> eclectic in all of us) turns up the fact that in fishing rods, the term
> ferrule does, in fact, apply to both the male and female halves of the
> coupling.  

Yeah, but since when has it been wise to believe fishermen??

:-)

Mike

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