Re: [Paddlewise] Eskimo Rolling Wide Boats

From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:29:44 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "PJ Rattenbury" <ratten_at_uow.edu.au>
>
> Do any Klepper or Feathercraft owners roll their boats?  I mean in real
> conditions, not as a 'circus trick' as Ralph Diaz so aptly describes it.
> By real conditions, I mean in the sort of sea/swell/wind /surf mix which
> would put you upside down in one of these boats?

The Feathercraft singles, particularly the K-1 and Khatsalano, are more
enough like a hardshell in terms of tighter cockpit fit and width, that some
people do roll them more often especially the Khats.

> This issue is of importance to me, as the owner of a single Klepper who is
> constantly asked about rolling the thing by my glass/plastic boat owning
> friends.
> My reply to them is why would I want to roll a boat which by reason of its
> air sponsons is difficult to roll in ideal conditions, and in fact the
> whole notion is contrary to the design of the boat.
> And  how are you going to hang upside down in a Klepper, without
> dangerously compromising your ability to safely and efficiently wet exit.
I
> just do not think you can fit out the Klepper's large and wide cockpit
> without going to ludicrous measures.

Actually you could equip the Klepper pretty adequately to keep you locked in
enough not to fall out if upside down.  When I had my Klepper, I had
sidebags alongside me in the cockpit that were so tight that they would have
held me in an upside position particularly if I put my knees under the
crossrib just a bit forward of the seat.   That crossrib is cut in a way
that I, at my torso length and leg length, could brace with my legs just
back from the knees.  Believe me, I was locked in.  I never tried rolling
and the boat, at its width and with those sponsons, would have resisted a
roll some.  But it certainly would have been doable.

But, as you point out, rolling isn't a practical self-defense or self-rescue
technique in a Klepper.  You best bet is prevention.  Stay well centered in
your single Klepper, and there isn't much that will knock you over except
stupidity.  A case in point on the latter happened during one of those
Trailside shows, the one in which Eric Stiller circumnavigated Manhattan
with the show's host at the time, Peter Whittaker.  Peter was in a single
Klepper and Eric in an-unaccustomed-for-him Khatsalano (Eric had sold and
promoted Kleppers for some 20 years or so).  They were in the area of some
whirling waters in the Hell Gate vicinity.  Peter got his paddle caught in a
downward whirl of a whirlpool.  Instead of letting go or slicing the blade
back up, he hung on to it figuring he could muscle it up.  He couldn't and
flipped.  I found it hilarious that the more stable boat went over.
Experience showed since Eric was a long-time paddler and would not have let
that happen to him.

ralph diaz
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