[Paddlewise] Fwd: Re: ignorant surf boat question

Paul,

Just for fun you should post this on the Riot message board on there 
site. I'm sure you'd get more then a few funny stores back. I've 
owned 2 glides one Xytec (SP?) and one Glass of an older design.  I 
can say first hand you can run rivers with them surf all day. With 
that said they have a bit of a hard learning curve. I've paddled a 
few of Corran's other designs and they all require a very aggressive 
paddling style.
As Paul was saying the differences your feeling are due to more then 
the different  hull styles between your two boats. Rather then get 
into that I'll offer some advice. Since you are more of sea kayakers 
and you don't normal do this in sea boats you many not have taken the 
time to adjust the seat for proper neutral float. This is done but 
moving the seat forwards and back until the bow and stern are out of 
the water equal distances. It may be that the person who had the boat 
before you was of a different size and the seat is now to forward 
casing it to dig.  If your going to using this boat for mostly surf 
in the ocean you may just want go ahead and pull your seat back 
beyond neural until you get used to it. I think you'll find after a 
wile you eater get used to it or don't. You don't see to many of them 
on the rivers but the few that you do are paddled by a almost cult 
following of Corran's the designer.

But the answer to your questions are:

Is the Glide only useful for doing tricks?
No it considered a river runner for experienced paddlers.

Will it get stuck in holes if I take it down a river?
It depends on your skill and the size of the hole. This can have a 
lot to do with the boats size  and volume not just hull shape. The 
glide is a bigger high volume boat so you've got a fighting chance. 
One the river that's good odds. ;-)

Is that the point?  :)
For some it is and others not.

JFF



>Hi,
>
>I'm a mostly sea kayaker who enjoys ocean surfing
>and occasional easy river runs.  Much to the amusement
>of the modern whitewater community, I've been using
>an old New Wave Sleek for surfing.  Recently I bought
>a used Riot Glide, because I wanted to see what a
>planing hull is like.  After a few times surfing, I
>haven't really figured it out.  The biggest difference
>I can see between the Sleek and the Glide is that the
>Glide tends to bury its nose in the wave, causing a
>capsize, a submersion that takes me off the wave face,
>or, in one case, an inadvertent ender (which I admit
>was sort of fun).
>
>What am I missing here?  Is the Glide only useful for
>doing tricks?  Will it get stuck in holes if I take it
>down a river?  Is that the point?  :)
>
-Paul

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