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From: <timbre_at_spiger.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] a roll-a, roll-a, roll-a (from "young frankenstein")
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:42:48 -0800
hi folks,

i appreciate the helpful ideas and responses to my self-righting devices post.

let me clarify that i'm not roll-obsessed.  what i want is SAFETY.

>         All this, however, places even a greater onus on owners of boats 
> like mine
>to religiously practice self rescue techniques other than rolling.


i couldn't agree more with this post from "the end of the world".  that's 
what i am about, self-rescue, skill, safety.  i don't care how i do it.  i 
care if it's consistently reliable.

it's also incumbent upon me and others like me to kayak in conditions that 
are favourable for us, our skill level, our type of boat.  of course this 
is patently obvious but still it has to be at the forefront of my priorities.

>  if you don't roll, you
>aren't really a seakayaker.


this mindset isn't exclusive to australia.  but again i don't care about 
it.  i admire the rollers and all the types of rolls.  i AM wedged well in 
my cockpit , but i know any beamy long-cockpit boat (let alone in that 
pesky bendy tupperware) is hard to roll.  so, i just want to save 
myself.  if a roll happens for me one day, coolio.

lots of great posts and thoughts here.  thanks for sharing it all.   great 
list, great people.

jackie, after seeing the havoc wreaked on the sp*ns*n-mania list, oops, i 
mean rec.boats.paddle, i want to join the chorus of thanks to you for the 
work you do moderating this list.

kcd



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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] a roll-a, roll-a, roll-a (from "young frankenstein")
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:53:47 -0500
At 10:42 AM 2/14/01 -0800, timbre_at_spiger.com wrote:
>hi folks,
>
>i appreciate the helpful ideas and responses to my self-righting devices post.
>
>let me clarify that i'm not roll-obsessed.  what i want is SAFETY.
>
>>         All this, however, places even a greater onus on owners of boats 
>> like mine
>>to religiously practice self rescue techniques other than rolling.
>
>
>i couldn't agree more with this post from "the end of the world".  that's 
>what i am about, self-rescue, skill, safety.  i don't care how i do it.  i 
>care if it's consistently reliable.

Practice, practice, practice.

I don't believe that Audrey Sutherland practices, or even can roll her
13' inflatable, but she has spend many hours practicing a reentry
technique.  She practiced in calm warm water conditions and practiced
when the wind was blowing 30 knots and in 20 ft swells.  She practiced
using her paddle and boat tethers so that was able to get back in
her boat quickly and safely every time.  When she capsized off the coast
of Alaska it took her 28 seconds to get back in her boat.



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