Sid Taylor wrote: <SNIP>>>>What's the point of this newsgroup if I can't express my honest opinion?<<<<< Right or wrong, my honest opinion was that your honest opinion was a put down rather than a legitimate attempt to explore the possible ways to accomplish the task. My (wrong) guess as to your age was because your response seemed to me more like I have experienced at WW kayaking or downhill skiing chat groups that seem to be more about one-upmanship than honest inquiry. My judgment about that may be just as wrong as my guess of your age. Perhaps, you were in a hurry and didn't have time to list the reasons those release methods wouldn't work for you. While it appears you have a lot more miles under your butt in a kayak than I do, I dislike appeals to authority (even by real authorities) without some reasoned argument of true story to back them up. On reading your post I doubted you had ever actually tried to slide your hand down into the tunnel to remove your sprayskirt but had too readily dismissed it with an air of authority, perhaps (I guessed) because it wasn't in the curriculum or commandments of your particular kayaking religion. That was my first impression, wrong or right. I look forward to your sharing your vast experience with us in the future, but hopefully with more detail attached to the opinion. BTW I believe that just saying "Ditto" is frowned upon on by Jackie (our paddlewise list mom, who has rapped my knuckles more than once). Personally, I think that the more ways I have actually practiced to remove my sprayskirt the more chances of success I'm likely to have removing it when the chips are down. Certainly some methods are going to work better for some folks (and spraydecks, and cockpits, and clothing) than others. That's why you need to try them all and invent new ones for yourself rather than just learn the one an "authority" told you is the best. You might find yourself wearing neoprene gloves next time you need a way out of the cockpit in a hurry (BTW I just added George Gronseth to the list of those who were frustrated by neoprene gloves while trying to exit a cockpit). I learned the hand down inside of the spraydeck method from a guy who had just figured it out in the nick of time to save his life (after being unable to release the tight neoprene skirt on a kayak he was testing at the West Coast Sea Kayaking Symposium a few years back). He had already tried a lot of other ways that didn't work for him and was desperate for air by the time he thought of it. I have to give him credit, I probably would have drowned desperately trying what had previously worked (and with increasing vigor, this is not usually a time that favors original thinking). Of course someone who has practiced any technique will be much more likely to be able to do it (unless something has changed to prevent it from working). This technique isn't nearly as hard to do or as complicated as some are making it appear. I think with a little practice (and maybe no tight drytop) this technique could be learned with one hand (for that day when you dislocate a shoulder and your brace on that side collapses into a capsize). Try this before then. Lift up your PFD from the bottom by hooking your fingers under it, straighten your fingers and push the tips into your chest or belly to get the nails to slip under the top of the skirt, next slip your flattened hand down through the tunnel as you suck in your gut. Once the hand is low enough rotate it palm up and slide it towards the side of the coaming while pushing lightly up on the underside of the skirt (so your straight fingers don't ram the inside of the coaming "head-on"). With your straight rigid fingers push the spraydeck out beyond the coaming lip (to break the suction) and lift the forearm from the elbow while swinging it forward to peel off the skirt from the front of the coaming. I would appreciate it if anyone who tries this reports back to us about how it worked (or not) for them. Also please report on what keeps it from working when it fails. So far Peter reported it worked the best for him of any method he tried. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sun Mar 11 2001 - 00:02:39 PST
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