Sid wrote: "The issue is not the number of rolls, but the ability to execute a roll in varying conditions." I agree that the best practice for a roll is trying it in varying conditions, which is exactly what I was doing when I tried a roll at sea, in full outfit. However, in the pool there are only so many conditions you can create: No waves, no wind, no salt. That's why I opted for a different approach: to learn as many rolls as possible. In the end you find out that each of those rolls is not a trick that you perform like a robot, but that all the seperate moves from all the different rolls form a pool of moves that you can choose from at will. It's kind of like sitting on a floor and getting up: Each one of us has a hundred ways to do that. We all do it different, we all do it different each time. We don't think about how to do it, we just select a few moves from a library of thousands of moves, according to the floor we are sitting on, avoiding any aching muscles, headaches or obstacles and at the same time acting out our general feeling of the moment. That's what I wanted to reach in my rolling techniques: A complete freedom of movement under water. It worked for me: In my story, and last summer in many other occasions, I DID roll. Next time in the pool I should practice my wet exit, since I haven't made one in the last year. -----Original Message----- From: SNStone [mailto:SNStone_at_email.msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:21 AM To: Blaauw, Niels; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] 5 rolls is not enough The issue is not the number of rolls, but the ability to execute a roll in varying conditions. You learned and practiced in one environment and then put it to the test in another environment. Rather than learning another roll I woudl focus on practicing in more difficult conditions wearing the equipment you would use in a real paddling situation. You must also have one roll that you are totally confident will work. I initially learned to roll using an extended paddle (pawlatta) roll. I periodically practice it as I know I can get back up. It's my insurance policy. When it comes to rolling, quality over quantity. sid -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Blaauw, Niels Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:18 AM To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: [Paddlewise] 5 rolls is not enough First: Thanks for all the information on hull speed. Whenever I meet a kayakker with sensors on his hull and paddle, a laptop on his sprayskirt connected to various parts of his body and breathing through a machine on his deck, I know I am not watching someone who escaped the hospital and took his mechanic lungs with him. I just met someone trying out a new kayak. Just remember that your normal roll might be a problem with all this equipment. Seriously: I got data on my own boat and a lot of improvements on my test ideas. Thanks. Something else: Last winter I managed to teach myself the sweep roll, C-to-C, screw-roll, dry-sigarette-roll, broken-paddle-roll and handroll, all on both sides of the boat, all with a dry and a swamped boat, all with and without a PFD. Sounds solid, doesn't it? So on my first trip at sea, I decided to cool my head with my most solid roll on my most solid side... I managed, but it was a close call. What happened? I lined my paddle on the left side of my boat, rolled, but didn't manage to make the first half, due to the combined flotation of my drytop and PFD in the salt water. No problem, I thought, I will roll on the other side. I brought the paddle to that side (right side), but that gave enough force to push my body under water and to the left side of the boat. Deadlock! In the end, by moving very slow and carefully, I managed to get my body and paddle on the same side of the boat and perform the roll. By then my companions had noticed I had some trouble and were preparing an eskimo-rescue. I felt the bow of one of their boats go through my hair when I finally rolled up. Weeks later I concluded that the only way out of this problem is a sculling roll, that you can start in any position, upside down or laying on any side. By now I added this roll to my repertoire. What surprises me is that very few people around me have mastered the sculling roll and nobody regards it as an important technique. Do they have non-floating PFD's, bricks in their head, just not a clue, or some other solution? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. 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