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From: Ron and Barb <rbdunningtons1_at_home.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Attaching spare paddle
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:32:42 -0600
Steve,





I thought I had that URL corrected. The correct URL is:
www.beckson.com/plasticclips.htm





Ron





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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Attaching spare paddle
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:06:33 EST
In a message dated 3/30/01 11:33:07 AM, cramer_at_coe.uga.edu writes:

<< > www.bekson.com/plasticlips.htm. Seems to me to be the best way to do the 
job
> with minimal damage to the boat when stowing and removing the paddle. Should
> be easy to get to in case of an emergency. What Have I forgotten? >>

I have some of these but not for the kayaks. They are light weight plastic, 
subject to breaking. Anything that sticks up like that is vulnerable in my 
view. Paddles will pop off with a strong wave or if something hits them. If 
you store other gear with the paddles and try to move the paddle I'd also 
expect either twisting the clips or the paddle to pop off. I don't know how 
UV resistant they are plus I HATE the idea of putting yet more holes in the 
boat. You would have to use at least 2 per paddle section. That is a lot of 
holes. If you have them near the cockpit and you do a self rescue where you 
come up across the back deck, I can see other issues of getting hung up on 
them or again, knocking the paddle off.
    When securing essential gear convenience is not my first priority. There 
may be clips that work but I don't think these are the right ones.

Joan Spinner
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From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Attaching spare paddle
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:25:31 -0700
Joan said:

In a message dated 3/30/01 11:33:07 AM, cramer_at_coe.uga.edu writes:

<< > www.bekson.com/plasticlips.htm. Seems to me to be the best way to
do the
job
> with minimal damage to the boat when stowing and removing the paddle.
Should
> be easy to get to in case of an emergency. What Have I forgotten? >>

"I have some of these but not for the kayaks. They are light weight
plastic,
subject to breaking."

Joan, there are a couple of different ones manufactured, and some are
better than others. I use a different companies' product, and have
located the clips in such a way that they are not a problem. I played
with all kinds of "shaft holders" over the years with my various
versions of Nordkapp Part )ne through Five. One of the types pictures on
the Bekson site (looks like a long cylinder with a slit at the top) are
difficult to get the paddle shaft in and out of, and the edges are very
sharp and dangerous in surf/rescue situations. The "broom-clip" style
work much better, but again, as you say, they stick up and are
vulnerable. I located mine on the back deck, one pair just behind the
net bag. The other (non-paddle blade side of the each split paddle) goes
further aft, and is held in by split shock cord hold downs with
individual clips. Thus, removal of the spare paddles is very easy, yet
secure when needed. I would say that for most folks, they are not a good
solution. The "broom-style" clips can also be used for holding down your
hand-held bilge pump. Again, not a good idea due to the encumbrance and
profile. Yes, I've broken a clip before. Once they break, they are a
"sharp" until replaced. I like them, but then I like drilling holes in
my boat. Should have been a drill sergeant. ::-)

DL

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Anything that sticks up like that is vulnerable in my
view. Paddles will pop off with a strong wave or if something hits them.
If
you store other gear with the paddles and try to move the paddle I'd
also
expect either twisting the clips or the paddle to pop off. I don't know
how
UV resistant they are plus I HATE the idea of putting yet more holes in
the
boat. You would have to use at least 2 per paddle section. <snip>
-----



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