In a message dated 3/9/01 6:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, SeaKayakNH_at_aol.com writes: Bill wrote: > << This one has escaped me, and I didn't see it in SK mag. I can't visualize > how it would work, unless there were some sort of strap or heavy line which > ran from inside the cockpit, between the coaming lip and spray deck. Is > that it? - Bill Hansen >> > > Jed wrote: > Yeah, that's it. Phyrana (sp?) does this with their WW boats. At least > I've seen some done this way. A strap is attached inside the cockpit under > the deck. The strap is laid over the cockpit rim and the spray deck is > attached. To release you just pull the strap towards you, rolling the spray > deck off the coaming. On the one I saw, had a whiffle golf ball was > attached > That's what I was referring to. A whiffle ball or loop on the loose end of the strap helps make it easy to find and grab. The best location for the strap would depend on coaming shape and should be determined by experimentation. Furthermore, the end of the strap can be held to the deck by velcro so that the likelihood of the strap being closed inside the skirt is nil and the end remains in the same familiar position on the deck for easy location. There is no strain put on the skirt and very little on the strap attachment when the strap is used. The idea is that it serves as a backup -- for use only when the skirt grabloop fails or is trapped inside the skirt, but it may make skirt removal so much easier that some people might want to use it as the primary system. I believe I first saw this in Derek Hutchinson's book or in a vintage Seakayaker. Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The secondary strap method works very well, because you can just pull straight back to pop the skirt. This is easier than the method for releasing a tight skirt using the grap loop, which requires pull the loop forward of the cockpit slightly before pulling up and back. To put it simply, the strap attached to the coaming is idiot proof, while the grabloop method takes a little bit of technique. I have owned lots of pyranha whitewater kayaks with the stock cockpit strap, and I have never ever used the strap. Why? Because it's a leak point -- water can infiltrate along the edge of the strap under the coaming and into the cockpit. That's a real pain in the arse on the river, but probably a lot less of a problem for sea kayakers. Depends on what kind of sea kayaker you are, I suppose... :) Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com> To: <SeaKayakNH_at_aol.com>; <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] No Subject > In a message dated 3/9/01 6:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, > SeaKayakNH_at_aol.com writes: > > Bill wrote: > > > << This one has escaped me, and I didn't see it in SK mag. I can't visualize > > how it would work, unless there were some sort of strap or heavy line which > > ran from inside the cockpit, between the coaming lip and spray deck. Is > > that it? - Bill Hansen >> > > > > Jed wrote: > > Yeah, that's it. Phyrana (sp?) does this with their WW boats. At least > > I've seen some done this way. A strap is attached inside the cockpit under > > the deck. The strap is laid over the cockpit rim and the spray deck is > > attached. To release you just pull the strap towards you, rolling the spray > > deck off the coaming. On the one I saw, had a whiffle golf ball was > > attached > > > > > > That's what I was referring to. A whiffle ball or loop on the loose end of > the strap helps make it easy to find and grab. > The best location for the strap would depend on coaming shape and should be > determined by experimentation. Furthermore, the end of the strap can be held > to the deck by velcro so that the likelihood of the strap being closed inside > the skirt is nil and the end remains in the same familiar position on the > deck for easy location. There is no strain put on the skirt and very little > on the strap attachment when the strap is used. > The idea is that it serves as a backup -- for use only when the skirt > grabloop fails or is trapped inside the skirt, but it may make skirt removal > so much easier that some people might want to use it as the primary system. > I believe I first saw this in Derek Hutchinson's book or in a vintage > Seakayaker. > > Harold > > > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed > here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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