The best quote I ever heard on the subject came from Ken Fink of Poseidon Kayaks in Maine: "Whitewater kayakers are usually never far from shore, so their reality is different. If you really find yourself in a bad situation in sea kayaking, you have a lot of time to ponder your impending death" (I may have not gotten it 100% his words, but the meaning comes through) In short, I sweat it out in my drysuit if the water's cold. Much better chance I'll be able to write up the accident report for you all myself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Wayne Smith wsmith16_at_snet.net Check out my sea kayaking & homebrewing page: http://pages.cthome.net/wsmith16/home.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Mastalski <mastalski_at_engr.wisc.edu> To: <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] Protection for immersion... > I have a question regarding what is the appropriate dress when immersion in > cold water is a possibility. For example, as many of you may know NRS > makes your standard 3 millimeter neoprene wetsuit and then they make the > Hydro Skin. I love the Hydro Skin as it is much more comfortable and > doesn't have that clammy feeling against your skin. The downside however > is that it does not have the R-factor of the neoprene, meaning it does not > provide for as much insulation, something important if immersion in cold > water is a possibility. Where I run into trouble is when I'm trying to > figure out what to wear on a July 4th paddle in Lake Superior. The air may > be 80 degrees, but darn that water is still plenty cold. Certainly I'd > love to be wearing Hydro Skin on such a warm day, but if immersion were to > occur, I'm guessing that the Hydro Skin would not provide sufficient core > warmth. Do some of you always wear a dry suit to protect against > immersion, regardless of the air temperature? Is there a recommended water > temperature where it is appropriate to always wear a dry suit, not just a > wetsuit? I've often heard the 110 degree rule, meaning if the water and > air temperature combined are under 110 degrees Fahrenheit, you should be > wearing a dry suit, but is this too simple a rule? I have whitewater > kayaked for eight years now and dressing for that is simple since I find > myself upside-down plenty. However, I find myself struggling against > dressing appropriately for a warm day on cold water when sea > kayaking. Cold day, cold water, no problem. Warm day, warm water, no > problem. There's probably no one answer, since each person weighs risk of > immersion differently. What would you suggest to a novice paddler getting > into the sport and asking for your educated suggestion? > > Thanks and happy paddling. > > Mark Mastalski > > ************************************************************************** * > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed > here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************************** * > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Apr 03 2001 - 18:13:23 PDT
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