In a message dated 4/27/01 5:47:25 PM, ashton_at_tundra.org writes: << I personally believe that if I am organizing a trip, that is to say, pulling it together, I have an obligation to ensure certain minimum levels of safety and communication. >> I agree, in theory. The problem manifests itself in practice. As an individual or group works towards providing these minimum levels of safety and communication, they expose themselves to someone else's definition of said minimum levels. This exposure can lead to serious threats relative to liability issues when the inevitable mishaps occur or the person with the alternative definitions is voicing them in a court of law. << I believe it's my responsibility to ensure that we have an adequate mix of experienced and novice paddlers, and that it's my responsibility to ensure that there is first-aid gear somewhere in the fleet. I also believe it's my responsibility to play liaison between the various groups of paddlers, and let the fleet know that we are, de facto if not de jure, all together in this endeavor. I suppose this opens me up to liability, but there are insurance forms for that; my basic take is that if I am organizing a trip, whether it's no-leader or led, it is absolutely, positively incumbent upon me and *nobody else* to make sure that we have our proverbial <deleted> together. >> While I agree completely with your last statement, this shepherding of other paddlers can lead them into a false sense of security. By insulating people from these realities, do we stunt their learning? I am not an emergency medical anything, but I share your sense of responsibility for all things within my sphere of influence. If our sense of responsibility is similar, maybe too is our learning experience that produced this. I did everything wrong, as I was learning about every adventure sport to which I was drawn. Oh I tried to be prepared, but ignorance of the potential for life threatening situations, kept me relying on the grace of god to survive without serious injury. What I did learn, very quickly, was the difference between owning the right gear and knowing how to use it properly. The club I paddle with offers both led trips "in season" and leaderless trips off-season. "In-season" we cater to the newer, sometimes slower, sometimes less adventurous paddlers. In the "off-season" we cater to no one. Every paddler is responsible for recognizing their own limits and managing them. We wont leave a friend alone to fend for himself. But neither do we downgrade our trips to accommodate someone that should not be there. We don't have to, no one in the group would be there if they could not handle the conditions and mileage. We do make allowances for good paddlers having "off days" or equipment issues. But basically, the "off-season" is when the leaders can relax, go into auto-mode and enjoy themselves. That being said, each person prepares and conducts themselves as if they were paddling alone, with no one to help them. In some cases the conditions are such that assisted rescues would be very difficult and dangerous. So each of us plans to rely only on ourselves for our own safety. We just happen to all paddle in the same area close enough to talk while we all paddle toward the same lunch spot. So in a sense, far from being leaderless, these trips are made up of only leaders. Respectfully, Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat Apr 28 2001 - 03:46:40 PDT
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