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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:40:40 -0700
I'm going looking for Orcas mid-May. Can somebody suggest
some likely spots? Yes, I know the currents are knarlsome.

More LEDs: http://www.action-electronics.com/lw2k.htm

I got the headlight and PocketBright. Both allege 2 week
battery life. The headlight is plenty bright for following a
trail. Only complaint is the metal housing makes it kinda
heavy. Makes a great reading light.

PocketBright is brighter than the Photon and considerably
bulkier.

Namaste

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From: Kingfisher Wilderness Adventures Ltd <kingfshr_at_idmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:43 -0700
From: "E. Sullivan" <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>

> I'm going looking for Orcas mid-May. Can somebody suggest
> some likely spots? Yes, I know the currents are knarlsome.

Hi,

May is not the best time to spot orcas in Johnstone Strait. It is my
experience that they do not become reliably present in large numbers until
near the end of June, with the end of July to the end of September being the
very best times (but of course you also have tend with all the people). That
being said you could still very likely see some residents and/or transients
orcas. Last May I also believe a Humpback cow and calf were spotted in the
Robson Bight area for a few days.

Assuming that you will begin your paddle form the Telegraph Cove area I
think the best place to camp to improve your odds of seeing orcas would be
anywhere from Kaikash Creek (a forestry service camp site that has a solar
powered composting toilet) south to Robson Bight (please note that you can't
actually enter Robson Bight). Kaikash Creek is at the centre of some typical
routes that the orcas travel in the summer months. If they are traveling
between Robson Bight and up the strait past Telegraph Cove they will swim by
here and if they are traveling out to Blackfish Sound through Blackney
Passage you can also see them from this spot. It has been my most reliable
spot to see orcas with them sometimes coming within 20 feet of the shore.
There are also many smaller pebble beaches south of Kaikash Creek that are
ideal camping spots for individuals or smaller groups.

A route that I have done a few times is to paddle along the strait and camp
somewhere in the Kaikash Creek area and then the next day continue paddling
down towards Robson Bight and then cross the strait to the Sophia Islands.
>From here you can find a couple of places to camp in Growler Cove on West
Cracoft Island. From here you can either head back across the strait , go
through Blackney Passage to Blackfish Sound or paddle across the entrance of
Blackney Passage to Hanson Island and paddle along it's shoreline. If you
are going to see transient orcas the best chances are the Sophia Islands and
the Plumper Islands at the west end of Hanson Island where they will be on
the lookout for some nice plump seals. Another possible spot for transients
(or marine mammals in general) would be the many islets at the northwest end
of Swanson Island.

For those reading that aren't aware of the "knarlsome" currents, Blackney
Passage and Weynton Passage are best paddled close to slack tide.

If you are thinking of crossing the strait and going into Blackfish Sound or
visiting Village island I would suggest finding a camp site facing Blackfish
Sound as you may still see orcas or other marine mammals swimming by. I have
never seen orcas in Village or Indian Channels. But once again you never
know where they may turn up.

Consider having your VHF on scan mode when paddling so that you can listen
to any reports of whales in the area either from whale watching boats,
fisherman or pleasure boaters. If you stop by Stubbs Whale watching in
Telegrpah Cove you can find out where they have had any viewings over the
past couiple of days.

I have never visited but there is also an orca lab on Hanson Island just a
little south of Burnt Pt.

One last thought is to bring a hydrophone. If you do come across some orcas
it is wonderful to sit back in your kayak and listen as well as watch them.
If you don't have a hydrophone you can rent one from North Island Kayaks (
http://www.island.net/~nikayak/ ) for something like $5 a day.

Hope this helps,
Andrew
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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:51:53 -0700
Thanks for your detailed response Andrew! Great data.

I might opt for the Mission Group on the West coast next month and save the
Straight for September. Have the crowds slacked by late September? I had the
Broken Chain to myself couple years ago in early October.

Have you paddle the Mission Group? If so, any tips?



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From: Mary Z <mzuschlag_at_home.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:09:51 -0700
I agree with others have said about Johnstone.  We went in July and all the
really nice camps were pretty much taken up by outfitters.   From Kaikash
creek and closer to Robson Bight was almost continuous camps.  It is quite
likely you will have neighbors near to your camp.  Often the wind comes up
in the afternoon so do your crossings of Johnstone early morning. We camped
on Parson Island on the Parson bay side, it was a small camp but we were
alone.  We had a female orca visit us everyday and saw sea otters in the
early morning. The paddle to Village island was fantastic and it looks like
there are a few more camps on some of the islands along the way.  We
negotiated Blackney passage during a flood tide, going with the current.
The motor boats were watching us intently, I am sure they were skeptical of
our choice.  We picked our way through skirting some of the squirrelly
currents and made it without incident.  We paddled on the Hanson Island side
of the passage. We saw Orcas everyday; watch for the Stubbs Orca viewing
boat. When you see the tour boat Orcas are close by! -- MZ

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Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights


Thanks for your detailed response Andrew! Great data.

I might opt for the Mission Group on the West coast next month and save the
Straight for September. Have the crowds slacked by late September? I had the
Broken Chain to myself couple years ago in early October.

Have you paddle the Mission Group? If so, any tips?



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From: Kingfisher Wilderness Adventures Ltd <kingfshr_at_idmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:33:19 -0700
From: "E. Sullivan" <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
Sent: April 30, 2001 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights


> Thanks for your detailed response Andrew! Great data.
>
> I might opt for the Mission Group on the West coast next month and save
the
> Straight for September. Have the crowds slacked by late September? I had
the
> Broken Chain to myself couple years ago in early October.
>
> Have you paddle the Mission Group? If so, any tips?


Glad the info is of some help.

September can still be a little busy in the strait but it is nothing like
what July and August can be like. If you are traveling in a small group it
is even less of a problem because you have a wider choice of camp sites.

Sorry I can't help with the Mission Group as I have never paddled there.

I just got back last weekend from a trip to Barkley Sound with a couple of
friends. We paddled from Torquart Bay to Bamfield. We by-passed the Broken
Group and went through the Pinkertons and the Deer Group. It was a great
trip even though the first 2 days saw lots of rain and a real torrential
thunderstorm our first night. We didn't see another paddler the entire trip
and the only other boat we saw was a water taxi taking people to a logging
camp. The last 2 days were nice and sunny and on our last evening after
setting up camp we saw a gray whale, it came into our little bay and it did
something that I have only seen humpbacks and orcas do before, it breached.
I am sure it is not that rare but it was the first time I had seen it and it
was quite impressive. There are also some fantastic sea caves and sea arches
throughout the Deer Group.

It was nice to be out paddling when you have the water all to yourself and
not have to worry too much about other peoples safety (yes I worried but not
as I would with beginners). The other two people I was paddling with were
experienced paddlers so we were able to put in lots of miles each day and
even take some time to paddle in rock gardens and play in the surf.

Hope your trip in May is a good one and if you paddle Johnstone Strait in
September let me know when as I will also be there.

Andrew
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From: Philip Torrens <skerries_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Johnstone Straight/lights
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:24:12
Andrew said
>I just got back last weekend from a trip to Barkley Sound with a couple of
>friends. We paddled from Torquart Bay to Bamfield. We by-passed the Broken
>Group and went through the Pinkertons and the Deer Group. ...  on our last 
>evening after
>setting up camp we saw a gray whale, it came into our little bay and it did
>something that I have only seen humpbacks and orcas do before, it breached.
>I am sure it is not that rare but it was the first time I had seen it and 
>it
>was quite impressive.

Hi Andrew,

Was this towards the Northeast end of the Deer Group? If so, I wonder if 
there's something about the underwater topography there that encourages this 
behaviour, as it's the one and only place I've seen full breech as well. A 
few years back I was on a kayak trip with three others. I heard the whale 
sighing before I could make him out against the sun's reflection. I told the 
woman who was paddling nearest me to rap gently on her hull (I've been told 
it sends out sound that helps make the whale aware of your presence so they 
won't surface under you.) After about five minutes of this, she's giving me 
the old raised eyebrow and wondering if there is a whale at all or if this 
is like sending the new kid on the job to get a left-handed screwdriver or 
striped paint. Just on time to save my credibility, the whale breeches like 
a sub doing an emergency surface drill about two hundred yards away. 
Amazing!

Philip Torrens
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