Re: [Paddlewise] newsgroups happenings

Ralph,

I recently thought of offering you $10 million for your newsletter
operation.

Of course I did some research and a back ground check on your operation. Lo
and behold, I find out from Google that you have murder charges out against
you. I have since decided to invest elsewhere.

I don't invest with murderers. If you are not a murderer, then you are a
victim of libel and have just lost out on a major business opportunity.

live long and paddle,

albert







----- Original Message -----
From: "ralph diaz" <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: [Paddlewise] newsgroups happenings


> It seems that fellow Tim with his sponsons has gotten worse and worse in
the
> rec.boats.paddle.touring newsgroup and others.  His pattern is to have a
> canned message for a few days that he repeatedly sends to the newsgroups
to
> any string of messages whether his message in any way fits or not.  Often
he
> will keep sending that canned message in reply to his own over and over
> again so that a thread may be 10 messages long with nine of them being his
> with little or no variance in the wording.
>
> The latest canned message is interesting.  The second paragraph goes as
> follows:
>
> "Do not lie to people about rolls and paddlefloats to murder them.This is
> why
> Canoe and Kayak Mag, Seakayaker Mag, Ralph Diaz, Matt Broze etc. are in
such
> serious trouble with charges of murder in the second degree."
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  It certainly puts me in some very
> good company.  An earlier set of his canned messages had me similarly
> condemned in the same breath as a condemnation of Charlie Walbridge, a
> renowned figure in the whitewater world especially for rescue techniques
he
> developed and for his continuing monitoring and analysis of whitewater
> accidents.
>
> As far as I know neither of these fine magazines nor we three gentlemen
have
> any criminal charges against us.  Sure, it is all ridiculous but repeat a
> charge often enough and it gets to stick.  While regular participants on
the
> newsgroups dismiss the guy as insane or worse, what about the occasional
> newsgroup visitor?  Or what about dejanews which archives newsgroups
> messages in searchable form?  Some one goes to search my name, or
Charlie's
> or Matt's in a search engine and this kind of stuff could be part of the
> stream of search results.
>
> Those of us in the Wavelength listserve days remember the Tim charges
> against John Winters as a baby killer and a signer of a suicide pact.  I
> eventually, in Tim's eyes, joined John in killing babies.  The only
killing
> that did take place was effectively of Wavelength; and led to Jackie and
> others creating a sane venue for discussion, PaddleWise.
>
> Anyone know of anything practical that can be done?  I know that
subscribers
> to those newsgroups have apparently repeatedly approached internet
> authorities and I think Tim's Internet Service Provider to no avail.
>
> ralph diaz
>
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> Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com
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